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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2006Questions about paint
Hi; I have a 91 civic, dark grey ( almost black ) with about 150,000 miles on it. I drive about 10,000 miles a year. I would like to hold on to the car for another 5 years while put away money for a new car. I have a dream of buying my next car with cash. The car is in good shape. However, the paint on the roof is starting to peel. I'm concerned about rust and I would like the car to look nice. When I called the dealership they told me that there was a number on the drivers side door that I could use to order an exact match for the paint. I did not find that number. Is there another way to get exactly the same color of paint to touch up the peeling spots on the roof? Is it possible to touch up the spots ( one 6 inches wide ) without making the car look like crap? Could an autobody shop do it and make it look nice without repainting the whole car? If I found a sale for repainting the car would changing the color change my insurance rates? Just curious Thanks in advance for the info Steve >Hi; > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >to peel. I'm concerned about rust and I would like the car to look >nice. Mine did that, however it is proabably just the clear coat that is coming off. >When I called the dealership they told me that there was a number on >the drivers side door that I could use to order an exact match for the >paint. I did not find that number. Is there another way to get >exactly the same color of paint to touch up the peeling spots on the >roof? On a car that old, the exact match will be to the original color not to the faded color you currently have. The paint sellers can find it for you but it won't match. Look inside your trunk. Does it match the outside side panel? if not the exact match paint won't match either. >Is it possible to touch up the spots ( one 6 inches wide ) without >making the car look like crap? I don't think so. >Could an autobody shop do it and make it look nice without repainting >the whole car? I've never seen a real good match, although they try to paint an entire panel, or roof, or hood or trunk deck. You are better off painting the whole thing to the original color. >If I found a sale for repainting the car would changing the color >change my insurance rates? Huh? >Just curious > >Thanks in advance for the info > >Steve > >Hi; > >If I found a sale for repainting the car would changing the color > >change my insurance rates? > > Huh? I heard somewhere that insurance companies will charge you different rates based on what color your car is. I don't know if that is an old wive's tale or not. I don't think I will get my car painted. I called 2 autobody shops, they both wanted about $3K.....too much for me. One wanted even $800 just to paint the roof. What is a clear coat? I don't see metal underneath the peeling paint on my roof, just more gray. Do I need to worrk about rust or am I best off doing nothing about the roof? Thanks Steve I once painted my Mercedes with a brush. From a distance, you couldn't tell the difference. Same colour, of course. > I don't think I will get my car painted. I called 2 autobody shops, > they both wanted about $3K.....too much for me. One wanted even $800 > just to paint the roof. > I once painted my Mercedes with a brush. From a distance, you couldn't > tell the difference. Same colour, of course. You did a better job than a guy I once knew, then. He used some of his father's leftover garage-door paint (baby blue) on his '70 Datsun 510 (this was a few years ago). He painted it in the evening. The paint must have been oil-based and slow-drying, because when he came out the next morning to inspect his handiwork there were zillions of gnats stuck in the paint. Brush-strokes + gnats = much laughter from friends and enemies alike.  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >> >Hi; > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >What is a clear coat? On some automotive paint jobs there is a color coat and then a clear coat added after the color coat to provide gloss, depth and to protect some metallics from fading. My '90 accord had clear coat and it started to peel off on the roof, hood, and trunk deck. I painted the car myself about two years ago. http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/readersrides/frankboettcher/index.html >I don't see metal underneath the peeling paint on my roof, just more >gray. Do I need to worrk about rust or am I best off doing nothing >about the roof? If you are just worried about rust, wax it well and it will offer protection from rust on the roof. >Thanks > >Steve > Hi; > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to peel. I'm concerned about rust and I would like the car to look > nice. The car's been repainted, and poorly. The factory paint does not peel off. > When I called the dealership they told me that there was a number on > the drivers side door that I could use to order an exact match for the > paint. It's actually on the jamb, where the striker is, not on the door itself. It's not usual to find that sticker gone unless somebody peeled it off. > I did not find that number. Is there another way to get > exactly the same color of paint to touch up the peeling spots on the > roof? A body shop with a spectrometer. Body shops know all about paint matching. > Is it possible to touch up the spots ( one 6 inches wide ) without > making the car look like crap? It's real tough to do that. A body shop will usually refuse and will want to repaint the whole panel. > Could an autobody shop do it and make it look nice without repainting > the whole car? Yes. > If I found a sale for repainting the car would changing the color > change my insurance rates? Not to my knowledge. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > > Hi; > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The car's been repainted, and poorly. The factory paint does not peel off. Uh, I've seen dozens of Hondas with original peeling paint... JT >> The car's been repainted, and poorly. The factory paint does not peel >> off. > > Uh, I've seen dozens of Hondas with original peeling paint... I never have. In *all* cases it's been a repaint that's peeling. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Agree with Tegger. Those Honda paint jobs (at least the early 90s ones) do not peel off. I've the same car, blue color, 163K miles. The paint has weathered 15 Michigan winters/summers as of now, and, except for fading, looks as good as when I first bought the car (except for dings at the front from road debris of course). If the original coat is still intact on the roof, I doubt whether rust would set in. And, if you do not mind the patches, just apply a good coat of Turtle-Shell wax (the old, hard to buff-off stuff, not the quickie sprays that are the latest craze) to keep the paint as is. I do a thorough wax job once a year, and that seems to have kept rust from taking a hold on my car. > Hi; > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Steve Thought I'd chime in on this one. If it were my car...... I'd go with a Earl Scheib type place, have them do the roof in the original color, and call it a day. Maybe the paint'l fade and catch up with the rest of the car in a few year. ;-) Proudly drive your 15 year old high-miler. > I'd go with a Earl Scheib type place, have them do the roof in the > original color, and call it a day. Maybe the paint'l fade and catch up > with the rest of the car in a few year. ;-) Proudly drive your 15 year > old high-miler. What is an Earl Scheib place? :) I think I will wax it once the weather warms up, maybe shop around for a sale on paint jobs. I don't think I'm psychologically ready to spend $800 to paint the roof or $3000 to paint the car. > > I'd go with a Earl Scheib type place, have them do the roof in the > > original color, and call it a day. Maybe the paint'l fade and catch up [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > a sale on paint jobs. I don't think I'm psychologically ready to spend > $800 to paint the roof or $3000 to paint the car. Earl Scheib/Maaco- affordable(cheap) franchise car paint/body places, just to get a coat of paint on top. Waxing will help, but I'd spend a few bucks to get some paint on there. I think it'd be well less than $800 for a buff out and clear coat. Hard to spend $3k on that particular car on paint. Maaco will paint the whole car pretty cheap. Remove trim yourself and pre-sand the bad areas and you will get a decent job. >> > I'd go with a Earl Scheib type place, have them do the roof in the >> > original color, and call it a day. Maybe the paint'l fade and catch up [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > $800 for a buff out and clear coat. Hard to spend $3k on that > particular car on paint. |
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