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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2006replacing tires for accord
Hello all, In a few weeks, I may get my tires replaced. Previously, I had bought tires at Walmart. I'm considering heading over to Firestone or Goodyear. Are they good at balancing and alignment work at these places? My current tires's tread is worn out well before the expected mileage, it's only at 12,000 miles (2.5 years), but Walmart says I can't get any prorations. Any other recommendations on chains that install/balance/rotate/align tires? btw, Tirerack recommends bridgestone potenza as a good tire. I'm looking for good handling in wet weather. Any other advice? THANKS > Hello all, > In a few weeks, I may get my tires replaced. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > THANKS A few months back, Consumer Reports tested auto tires and concluded that the Goodyear Assurance TripleTred was its top recommended tire. My reading of the Tire Rack website shows results that agree with this rating. Accordingly, we put a set on my wife's '97 Odyssey and have been very happy with the results (at least here in Southern California where snow is not a concern but wet weather handling is.) Good luck with your choice! > > Hello all, > > In a few weeks, I may get my tires replaced. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > with the results (at least here in Southern California where snow is not a > concern but wet weather handling is.) Good luck with your choice! We put the T/Ts on my wife's '03 Accord, and have been very happy with them here in the NE where all weather is a concern... --Gene Hi, I have a question to those of you that have Goodyear tires. I tried Goodyear tires twice and was very unhappy with them for the same reason. The first time was on an old Accord, I put a set of Aquatreads on but hated them because what had been very precise and rapid steering response became quite sluggish. It made my Accord's steering feel like an old American car's steering (turn the wheel and about a half-hour later the car finally decides to turn). It probably wasn't really quite that bad, but the degradation of the steering response was very noticeable. I thought it was attributable to the fact that the Accord had rather small tires and the Aquatreads had about .5" of groove in the center of the tread missing. I thought that since it had little rubber on the road, its response was sluggish. Later, I very foolishly bought a Dodge Intrepid (NEVER AGAIN!!!) and when it needed new tires I tried a set of Goodyears again. Well the same darned thing happened to the steering - sluggish again. I hated it so much, I had the tire dealer remove the tires and put something else on. I'm back to an Accord and will need new tires soon (gad, those OEM Michelins have no traction, but they have responsive steering). I rejected buying a Camry because its steering response was slightly sluggish compared to the Accord.) Since a number of you are recommending Goodyears, but I'm VERY leery of that brand after being burned twice. Anyway, to you Goodyear owners, how is their steering after putting the tires on? Maybe it is just the models I've tried. >> > Hello all, >> > In a few weeks, I may get my tires replaced. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > --Gene > Since a number of you are recommending Goodyears, but I'm VERY leery of that > brand after being burned twice. Anyway, to you Goodyear owners, how is > their steering after putting the tires on? Maybe it is just the models I've > tried. It seems that every tire manufacturer has good and bad models. As far as Goodyear is concerned, the Assurance ComforTred and TripleTred get very good reviews, and the Regatta 2 is a decent tire as well (my Accord has Regatta's on it). > > Since a number of you are recommending Goodyears, but I'm VERY leery of that > > brand after being burned twice. Anyway, to you Goodyear owners, how is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > reviews, and the Regatta 2 is a decent tire as well (my Accord has Regatta's > on it). Regatta 2's on my Accord, quick steering response, good dry and wet traction. The only thing I don't like about them is they have a lot of road noise. Sound like truck tires. > Regatta 2's on my Accord, quick steering response, good dry and wet > traction. > > The only thing I don't like about them is they have a lot of road > noise. Sound like truck tires. I never noticed much road noise from my Regatta's. Perhaps it increases as the miles increase? > > Regatta 2's on my Accord, quick steering response, good dry and wet > > traction. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I never noticed much road noise from my Regatta's. Perhaps it increases as > the miles increase? Actually it's just the opposite. I have about 4,000 miles on mine and they are getting quieter. I noticed it right away because I had Goodyear Integrity's before and they didn't have any road noise, but steering response sucked. No big deal, you really only notice it on the highway with the radio turned down, and like I said, it's getting better. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > them because what had been very precise and rapid steering response became > quite sluggish. The Tire Rack's Survey Results rates (scale of 1 to 10, best is 10) steering response for the Goodyear Assurance TripleTreds at 9.0, ComforTreds at 8.1 and the OEM Michelins at 7.3 (although the Michelins are a slightly higher performance level). The TripleTreds have a high steering response rating for an all seasons tire but none of these tires is razor sharp. See www.tirerack.com for more info. snip > I'm back to an Accord and will need new tires soon (gad, those OEM Michelins > have no traction, but they have responsive steering). I rejected buying a > Camry because its steering response was slightly sluggish compared to the > Accord.) Yup, Camry's steering geometry and crappy tires are just no fun. (Toyota claims the new Camry is better than the old one but...) > Since a number of you are recommending Goodyears, but I'm VERY leery of that > brand after being burned twice. Anyway, to you Goodyear owners, how is > their steering after putting the tires on? Maybe it is just the models I've > tried. I like the Goodyears for what they are. A high performance tire they are not. Try a set of Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S Ultra High Performance All-Season for that. But watch out for snow. >Hi, >I have a question to those of you that have Goodyear tires. I tried [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >their steering after putting the tires on? Maybe it is just the models I've >tried. Steering response is usually a function of sidewall stiffness. So the tread has little to do with it. YOu also need to keep in mind that a stiffer sidewall will give you better response, but the ride will deteriorate too. So it is a trade off. Goodyear makes performance tires with stiff sidewalls as well as other tires with a comfort bias with less stiff sidewalls. Your dealer should be able to tell you which tires would work for your needs. ----------------- Alex "Gene S. Berkowitz" wrote in message... > In article, magnusso1 says... > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > We put the T/Ts on my wife's '03 Accord, and have been very happy with > them here in the NE where all weather is a concern... I'll put in my vote for the T/Ts also. They handle the snow (here in SoDak) very well for being A/S tires. They also don't squeal on the pavement (surprising for being a high-mileage tire). They do ride a little rough, so if you want a softer ride, go for the ComforTreds. 'Tirerack' (http://www.tirerack.com) Check it out... all aspect review on tires... hope it helps!  SignatureMunG35 http://www.automotiveforums.com We put Goodyear Assurance ComforTreds onto a 2004 Accord EX to smooth out its choppy highway ride and improve traction, especially wet road traction, over the OEM Michelins. The Goodyears are excellent. The ComforTreds ride a little softer than the TripleTreds and they are not directional so I can maximize tire tread life by rotating the tires all around the car. I find best tire tread life at tire pressures considerably higher than the Honda recommendation. Your local Goodyear shop should be able to offer you prices competitive with The Tire Rack. "I find best tire tread life at tire pressures considerably higher than the Honda recommendation." How high do you go - I keep my accord's tires at 32-33. Do you go higher than that? > "I find best tire tread life at tire pressures > considerably higher than the Honda recommendation." > > How high do you go - I keep my accord's tires at 32-33. Do you go > higher than that? Yeah, I've been setting the Goodyears to 36 front, 33 rear and getting good, even tire wear (measured with a gauge). But the best tire pressure for even wear is dependent upon individual driving so what works best for me may not work as well for you. >> "I find best tire tread life at tire pressures >> considerably higher than the Honda recommendation." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pressure for even wear is dependent upon individual driving so what > works best for me may not work as well for you. The recommended tire inflation pressure for my 1988 Accord LXi is 26 psi, and some years ago, shortly after the purchase of new tires (Michelin) all around, I decided to run higher inflation pressure (32 psi) in order to improve fuel economy. Returning to the tire dealer 5,000 miles later for a routine balance and rotation, I was absolutely astonished when the dealer's technician pointed out that all four tires had developed flat spots around their full circumference. I immediately reverted back to the recommended inflation pressure (26 psi), but the damage was done and less than 5,000 miles later, when I couldn't stand the road noise any more, I trashed all four tires and reskinned with another set of Michelins, which (at 26 psi) have worn uniformly and are still very serviceable at almost 60,000 miles. So, what happened? Well, here's my read. The 1988 Honda Accord LXi has a fully independent suspension with McPherson struts, and I believe that the harmonics (the 'tuning', if you will) for this suspension demand that the tires provide a certain level of damping to suppress harmonic resonance that may otherwise develop on jointed concrete driving surfaces at freeway speeds. Increasing the inflation pressure to 32 psi substantially reduced the damping provided by the tires, altering the harmonic response of the suspension, and predisposing the system (suspension + tires) to high-amplitude vibration modes that gave rise to the flat spots. There's really no other way to explain what happened ... at the time the unusual wear was detected, the suspension and frame alignment were checked and found to be normal, all four worn tires were found to be in perfect balance on a spin-balancing machine that had been recalibrated on a couple of days before, and a visit to my Honda dealer revealed nothing unusual in any of the suspension components, let alone all of them at all four corners. So, I won't dispute the satisfactory experiences of others who are running higher-than-recommended inflation pressures, but my experience convinced me that the recommended inflation pressures may be more than just a number pulled out of a hat. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. > >> "I find best tire tread life at tire pressures > >> considerably higher than the Honda recommendation." [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > around, I decided to run higher inflation pressure (32 psi) in order to > improve fuel economy. snip How many miles were on the shocks when you mounted the Michelins? How many sets of suspension components have you gone thru in the 19 years this car has been on the road? Or am I misreading your post? > So, what happened? Well, here's my read. The 1988 Honda Accord LXi has a > fully independent suspension with McPherson struts, I was sure that version of Accord had a double wishbone setup (with shocks and springs) in front and back? >> So, what happened? Well, here's my read. The 1988 Honda Accord LXi has a >> fully independent suspension with McPherson struts, > > I was sure that version of Accord had a double wishbone setup (with shocks > and springs) in front and back? I stand corrected on that point ... four wheel double-wishbone with shocks and springs, fully independent rear. Notwithstanding that error in the story I was planning on sticking to, my general thesis remains unchanged: running tire inflation pressure significantly above the manufacturer-recommended value can have unintended and undesirable consequences. > Hello all, > In a few weeks, I may get my tires replaced. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > THANKS Had the Bridgestone Potenza RE950s on an old Prelude. Best tires I've ever used in the rain. Dry was also excellent but snow was nothing to brag about. Light snow is ok but you still gotta be wary. For the Accord, they rated the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S highly too. Another thing to think about - looks the potenza RE950s are being discontinued. -Dave i have to agree with other posts. i have goodyear TT on my 99 Accord and they work great. Hello all, In a few weeks, I may get my tires replaced. Previously, I had bought tires at Walmart. I'm considering heading over to Firestone or Goodyear. Are they good at balancing and alignment work at these places? My current tires's tread is worn out well before the expected mileage, it's only at 12,000 miles (2.5 years), but Walmart says I can't get any prorations. Any other recommendations on chains that install/balance/rotate/align tires? btw, Tirerack recommends bridgestone potenza as a good tire. I'm looking for good handling in wet weather. Any other advice? THANKS >i have to agree with other posts. >i have goodyear TT on my 99 Accord and they work great. >Hello all, >In a few weeks, I may get my tires replaced. >Previously, I had bought tires at Walmart. >I'm considering heading over to Firestone or Goodyear. >Are they good at balancing and alignment work at these >places? Firestone makes about the worst tires you can get. Don't be surprised if you don't get even one year out of a set. > Firestone makes about the worst tires you can get. Don't be surprised > if you don't get even one year out of a set. From my experiences, Uniroyal is just as bad if not worse. I had a set of TigerPaw AWP's on my '93 Accord that were so bad on wet pavement. I ditched them after about 7000 miles. I've got Goodyear Regatta 2's on it now and they have been pretty good so far. >> Firestone makes about the worst tires you can get. Don't be surprised >> if you don't get even one year out of a set. >From my experiences, Uniroyal is just as bad if not worse. I had a set of >TigerPaw AWP's on my '93 Accord that were so bad on wet pavement. I ditched >them after about 7000 miles. I've got Goodyear Regatta 2's on it now and >they have been pretty good so far. Bridgestone's bottom is as bad as firestone or uniroyal. Had a set come with a japanese econobox I bought new and they didn't last 12K miles. |
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