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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2006Replace Tie Rod Ends before alignment.
I recently replaced all 4 of my tires on my 98 Accord Couple (4Cyl). I then decided to go in for an alignment at which the guys there informed me that I would have to change both of my Front Tie rod ends before they could proceed with the alignment. My question is, how do I know when my tie rod ends have to be replaced ? And why can't I proceed with an alignment without replacing the tie rod ends ? I just want to make sure that i'm not being taken for a ride since they slammed me with an estimate of $450 for replacing the Tie rod ends and the alignment. Any suggestions / advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank You Russzee > I recently replaced all 4 of my tires on my 98 Accord Couple (4Cyl). I > then decided to go in for an alignment at which the guys there informed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ? And why can't I proceed with an alignment without replacing the tie > rod ends ? Because if they're worn, you'll have play and it will be impossible to proeperly set the toe. Not to mention that if one of your tie rod ends lets go on you, the bill to fix the damage will be considerably more than $450!!!! > I just want to make sure that i'm not being taken for a ride > since they slammed me with an estimate of $450 for replacing the Tie > rod ends and the alignment. A reasonable cost, especially considering the consequences of not getting worn ball joints replaced. http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/lowerballjoint/index.html  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > I recently replaced all 4 of my tires on my 98 Accord Couple (4Cyl). I > then decided to go in for an alignment at which the guys there informed > me that I would have to change both of my Front Tie rod ends before > they could proceed with the alignment. did they say why? are they worn? what mileage is the car? > My question is, how do I know when my tie rod ends have to be replaced > ? when they're loose. > And why can't I proceed with an alignment without replacing the tie > rod ends ? if they're not loose, you can - no need to replace. > I just want to make sure that i'm not being taken for a ride > since they slammed me with an estimate of $450 for replacing the Tie > rod ends and the alignment. that's way high. get a second opinion. > Any suggestions / advice will be greatly appreciated. state the freakin' model, age and mileage will ya? > Thank You > Russzee Thanks for your responses and my apologies for not providing enough information. > did they say why? are they worn? what mileage is the car? They said that there was slight play and that wheel alignment would be useless if tie rod ends have play in them.My car has 128K miles on it. I think they are slightly loose , not worn out. I will get a second opinion on the price....Thanks for the heads up on that. My car is a Honda Accord 98 , Couple (4 Cyl - Automatic) , 128K - Russzee > > I recently replaced all 4 of my tires on my 98 Accord Couple (4Cyl). I > > then decided to go in for an alignment at which the guys there informed [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Thank You > > Russzee > Thanks for your responses and my apologies for not providing enough > information. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I think they are slightly loose , not worn out. SAME THING. Are you a mechanical expert? If so, then why ask here? SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ I would also get a second and maybe even a third opinion on the tie rods (what's bad, the inner or outer tie rod). It might be a shop that's trying to improve it's bottom line. In my experience, when you have bad tie rods you can tell. When driving, it will be hard to hold the car in a straight line. You can also jack the front of the car up,lock the steering and try to turn the wheels a little back and forth by grabbing the tires and feel for ANY play. You should have almost none. If your steering boots have gone bad, it can make the inner tie rods go bad very fast. Been there, done that. Lastly setting unneeded toe in on Honda's is a good money maker. I have seen shops that un-align cars. Good luck. > I would also get a second and maybe even a third opinion on the tie rods > (what's bad, the inner or outer tie rod). It might be a shop that's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > bad very fast. Been there, done that. Lastly setting unneeded toe in on > Honda's is a good money maker. I have seen shops that un-align cars. me too. keeps the punters coming back for new tires regular as clockwork. blame the tire or say the tie rods are worn and get even more money for unnecessary replacement. especially with a honda where this stuff is usually very durable. regarding remedy, if you study the run line on the tire, you can see if alignment is ok long before any tire wear's occurring. if you bought the "alignment warranty", just keep taking it back to the shop. pretty soon, they figure out that you're onto their little game and do it right. > Good > luck. persistence pays. Thanks alot for your insights... I'm taking it to another shop to get a second opinion. I'll follow up soon reg. the outcome . > > I would also get a second and maybe even a third opinion on the tie rods > > (what's bad, the inner or outer tie rod). It might be a shop that's [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > persistence pays. >I think they are slightly loose , not worn out. Tie rods are not adjustable, so slightly loose = worn out. Next step is separation. That can be pretty ugly, so if they are loose do yourself, and others who need to be on the same roads with you, a favor and get them replaced. ----------------- Alex |
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