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Car Forum / Honda Cars / April 2006fully sinthetic oil, how frequently change?
Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. How frequently it should be changed, each 5000 miles or may be somewhat longer period? Escape tube is black inside (car has around 50.000 miles, but it was already slightly black when i bought it used and car had 18,000 miles), does it means that car burning oil? may be it depend on gas used. I use 87 (manual says 86 or higher). thanks, kara > Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. That's overkill. It adds nothing to your engine that simple and inexpensive dino oil won't do for your engine. sorry, what is dino oil? Is it just any mineral one? > sorry, what is dino oil? Is it just any mineral one? yeah. Dino oil at 5K intervals is plenty sufficient for that engine. I would increase the oil change intervals to every 10,000miles (or more) to compensate for the extreme price of the Mobel-1, Or go back to the regulars stuff (unless the car spends it's weekends at the racetrack). Pars > I would increase the oil change intervals to every 10,000miles (or > more) to compensate for the extreme price of the Mobel-1, Or go back to > Pars no one serious response. i change oil by myself, it is fully compensate "extreme" price kara > no one serious response. i change oil by myself, it is fully compensate > "extreme" price No, it's not. $1.50/quart vs. $7.50/quart. Even 3K oil changes with regular oil don't make up for even 10K oil changes with synthetic. And since your engine won't respond any better with synthetic, why bother? Do 5K changes with regular and be done with it. Do you also put 93 octane fuel in the tank because it's "better"? the price of synthetic oil is $5.25/quart (not 7.50). It is compensated by changing oil by myself. Engine should not responde better (what it means?, run faster?). One might see the advantage of good maintance (oil changes) on a long period of time, when your car will start to fume, i.e. will need to "make" the engine, it completely depends on maintance of oil changes (and oil quality too). > the price of synthetic oil is $5.25/quart (not 7.50). It is compensated > by changing oil by myself. No, it's not--because you could ALSO change the oil yourself using regular oil. Which is all the car needs. You're throwing your money away, but you don't want to hear that. Something in you demands that you spend money for the sake of spending money. >Do you also put 93 octane fuel in the tank because it's "better"? if manual of car said "93 octane" i would, but it sais "86" "Elmo ... wrote:" >Do you also put 93 octane fuel in the tank because it's "better"? Elmo, do you put water in radiator? It is worth, $0.76/gallon against $12.00&gallon of coolant. > >Do you also put 93 octane fuel in the tank because it's "better"? > Elmo, do you put water in radiator? Please answer the question. I'm guessing you do--which means you don't really know what you're doing, AND don't *want* to know. >>> Do you also put 93 octane fuel in the tank because it's "better"? >> Elmo, do you put water in radiator? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm guessing you do--which means you don't really know what you're > doing, AND don't *want* to know. if they wanna use synthetic, and run it to the max allowed interval, fine. personally, id feel slightly better off buying a used car from a private party that changed the oil regularly with synthetic on their own, rather than someone who took it to the spiffy lube whenever they noticed the indicator light (or was that the oil pressure light? i dunno!) My 98 Civic has been getting Mobel-1 for the past 250000km and for the past 2 years, I have increased my internavl to 15k (20k on some occasions). I also got rid of the K&N air filter since I started increasing change interval. If I were using the regular oil (which has happened on a few occasions), I would need to be religious about the 5k intervals. Reason being, my driving tends to be a bit extra, and the regular oils burn-out faster then the mobel-1. Also, there's noticeable color change with regular oil (gets darker more quickly), which isn't the case with the Mobel (or not as quickly). Pars >> no one serious response. i change oil by myself, it is fully compensate >> "extreme" price > > No, it's not. > > $1.50/quart vs. $7.50/quart. i buy the 6 pack at costco for something like $24. >> I would increase the oil change intervals to every 10,000miles (or >> more) to compensate for the extreme price of the Mobel-1, Or go back to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > kara a serious response would be to feel free to go by the maximum allowed time in the owners manual. Unless you drive under what the user manual describes as severe conditions it makes absolutely no sense to change any type of recommended grade motor oil any less than 5000 miles. I personally do not see the advantage of synthetic oil [maybe if I lived in the Artic Circle] but for those that use it, change at what the manufacturer recommends. I use 5000 miles because it is convenient for the family in that oil changes are done at 20, 25, 30 thousand miles etc. The mentality in that if the recommendation is 7000 miles that 3000 must be better and maybe even weekly oil changes would make your engine last forever does not make sense. Years ago poorly designed engines would allow gasoline and other contaminants to enter the oil in relatively damaging quantities but that is not the case anymore particularly for well engineered engines like Hondas. If you car is burning oil you would see that the quantity of oil in the engine is going down between changes via what the dipstick shows. > Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. How > frequently it should be changed, each 5000 miles or may be somewhat [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > kara > Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. How > frequently it should be changed, each 5000 miles or may be somewhat > longer period? 5000 miles is a good interval for natural oil. Synthetic should be good for at least 7500 to 10,000 miles. Mobil 1 now has an extended performance oil good for 15,000 miles. > Escape tube is black inside (car has around 50.000 miles, but it was > already slightly black when i bought it used and car had 18,000 miles), > does it means that car burning oil? may be it depend on gas used. I use > 87 (manual says 86 or higher). If the exhaust is a little sooty don't worry about it. If the car burns more than 1 quart of oil every 3000 miles under normal driving conditions, you should have a mechanic check it out. > thanks, > > kara thanks. I also was thinking in soemthing like each 7kmiles. Apparently there is no any noticable consuming of oil, so sooty exhaust pipe is probably because of frequent starting/stopping of engine (because driving in the city). > thanks. I also was thinking in soemthing like each 7kmiles. > Apparently there is no any noticable consuming of oil, so sooty exhaust > pipe is probably because of frequent starting/stopping of engine > (because driving in the city). and/or the brand/type of gas. dont worry about it. on my 1998 civic, it has a indicator that changes color every 7500 miles. i think. My 98 Civic had a sooty exhaust since it was brand new. After 284,000km, the exhaust is still equaly sooty. So, I'm not worrying about it. Pars You might need to check out the web site www.performanceoiltechnology.com to gain the basic knowledge about the oil, then you can go back from there. >Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. How >frequently it should be changed, each 5000 miles or may be somewhat [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >kara get a life > Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. How > frequently it should be changed, each 5000 miles or may be somewhat > longer period? I don't think this link has been posted to this thread.... http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html > Escape tube is black inside (car has around 50.000 miles, but it was > already slightly black when i bought it used and car had 18,000 miles), > does it means that car burning oil? may be it depend on gas used. I use > 87 (manual says 86 or higher). Any car will have a bit of soot in/on the pipe. If the bumper and other areas near the exhaust are black, that would seem excessive. -G Thanks for your web site, it is useful. >> Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. How >> frequently it should be changed, each 5000 miles or may be somewhat [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >-G The owner's manual says that you have to change the oil according to the maintenance schedule whether you use synthetic or organic oil. It still gets dirty the same as dino oil. Sid > Honda Accord VP, 2002. I use fully sinthetic oil, Mobil 1, 5W-20. How > frequently it should be changed, each 5000 miles or may be somewhat [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > kara |
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