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Car Forum / Honda Cars / April 200605 HAH cornering on a tire edge
My 05 Accord Hybrid has always felt like an iron slab on turns. It holds steady but the front slides out like it's driving on sand. Based on tire wear and the mark it leaves on smooth surfaces, I can see that it's taking turns entirely on the outside edge of the outer front tire. A hard turn leaves behind one black line about two inches thick. Is this bad traction caused by weak tires or poor suspension geometry? I've been thinking about getting rid of my car for many reasons, and never cornering well could be the last straw. Do I invest in better tires or get a new car? I've checked the suspension and I've tried a higher tire pressure already. Has anyone upgraded the tires on their 05 HAH? I'm guessing poor suspension geometry. I believe how much the tire leans side to side is called camber. Camber should be adjusted so that the tire remains flat on the road while cornering (and driving straight). My old Civic needed a "camber kit" because camber wasn't directly adjustable. Don't know about Accords. Hybrics probably have more junk that is unfamiliar to most mechanics (regenerative braking/electric motors). A reputable alignment shop should be able to help you with this. Yeah, I know, this is like finding an honest politician. A reputable alignment shop should be able to help you with this. Yeah, I know, this is like finding an honest politician. LOL - agree completely - actually found one in Minneapolis. Kevin get that suspension looked at - something else maybe going on - if something lets go at freeway speeds - you might get an expensive adrenalin rush - don't need/want those events. > I'm guessing poor suspension geometry. is it possible the OEM tires are chosen for maximum MPG as well? > I'm guessing poor suspension geometry. I believe how much the tire > leans side to side is called camber. Camber should be adjusted so that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to help you with this. Yeah, I know, this is like finding an honest > politician. Actually, it would be castor that needs adjusting, and it's not adjustable. The tire is perfectly flat on straight and gentle turns so camber is fine. It's hard turns where the tires are running on their edge. I'd like know if the tires have abnormally weak sidewalls or if the suspension just doesn't hold the wheels at a good angle. Or both? Between the low milage, transmission downshift lag, poor handling, and suspect reliability, I'm not sure if I want to keep this car for its full life or trade it while it's still a highly valued model. Yeah, it's my fault. I didn't push the car hard enough in the test drive. It has an awesome 0-60 but it doesn't handle well when driven aggressively and it doesn't save gas when driven conservatively. My wife's commute is a crawl to work. Stop and go mostly stopped. She gets about 29 mpg on her Accord hybrid. On her 300M she used to get about 20 mpg. >> I'm guessing poor suspension geometry. I believe how much the tire >> leans side to side is called camber. Camber should be adjusted so that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > drive. It has an awesome 0-60 but it doesn't handle well when driven > aggressively and it doesn't save gas when driven conservatively. What tires do you have on the car? The electric steering in the hybrid is not quite as good as the normal steering in other Accords but it isn't supposed to be bad. I have no problems with my wife's hybrid accord. > My 05 Accord Hybrid has always felt like an iron slab on turns. It > holds steady but the front slides out like it's driving on sand. Based [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I've checked the suspension and I've tried a higher tire pressure > already. Has anyone upgraded the tires on their 05 HAH? > I can see that > it's taking turns entirely on the outside edge of the outer front tire. > A hard turn leaves behind one black line about two inches thick. Too much weight transfer for the tire, suspension system as a whole? Slow up or trade up, would be my advice. You're driving this car far harder than the designers intended, IMHO. Civic Si? Need something larger? Infiniti G35? |
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