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Honda oil filters: Now and Then

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FunkyKev - 16 May 2006 08:06 GMT
About 5 years ago I was told that Fram made them.  Now I hear that Fram
no longer does.  If not, who?  What's the proven difference?  Data?
What's the best rated filter for Honda overall...OEM or otherwise?

Kevin
TeGGeR® - 16 May 2006 14:22 GMT
> About 5 years ago I was told that Fram made them.  Now I hear that Fram
> no longer does.  If not, who?  What's the proven difference?  Data?
> What's the best rated filter for Honda overall...OEM or otherwise?

Canadian-market Honda OEM filters have been made by the FRAM brand for at
least 14 years.

AlliedSignal (then the owner of FRAM) took over Honeywell in 1999. The FRAM
brand was then made part of AlliedSignal's Honeywell Consumer Products
division.

US ones come from several sources. Filtech, for example.

Other than studies where various people have dissected various filters to
see what they look like inside, there exist ZERO actual ASTM
flow/filtration/durability tests of ANY oil filters ANYwhere.

I use the Canadian OEMs.

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dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com - 16 May 2006 17:26 GMT
> > About 5 years ago I was told that Fram made them.  Now I hear that Fram
> > no longer does.  If not, who?  What's the proven difference?  Data?
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> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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I usually agree with TeGGeR but not re. Honda OEM oil filters. Once
Honda went to the tiny tea-cup design (to make it easier to spin them
on) I decided Honda was more interested in things other than engine
longevity. I now use Purolator oil filters (usually PurOne) which seem
large enough to hold sufficient media for 5000+ miles. Yeah, I'm
probably deluding myself (like TeGGeR says, where's the data?) but IMHO
those new Honda filters seem more appropriate for lawn mowers than
automobiles.
Art - 16 May 2006 23:35 GMT
Consumer Reports took apart a bunch of oil filters maybe a decade ago.  At
the time I believe Fram sucked.

>> About 5 years ago I was told that Fram made them.  Now I hear that Fram
>> no longer does.  If not, who?  What's the proven difference?  Data?
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>
> I use the Canadian OEMs.
TeGGeR® - 17 May 2006 02:24 GMT
> Consumer Reports took apart a bunch of oil filters maybe a decade ago.
>  At the time I believe Fram sucked.

They never did a TEST. I checked.

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TeGGeR® - 16 May 2006 14:23 GMT
> About 5 years ago I was told that Fram made them.  Now I hear that Fram
> no longer does.  If not, who?  What's the proven difference?  Data?
> What's the best rated filter for Honda overall...OEM or otherwise?

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/oil/index.html#filter

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garray - 21 May 2006 06:16 GMT
Several months ago a moderator and former mechanic cut open a bunch of
filters and put the findings on the Honda Element Owners Club site:
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12206&highlight=oil+fil
ter+survey


Turns out the newest filter for the Element and others is not as high
quality as the one previously and they're hard to find. There's almost a
black market to find those old (A01, I think) filters now.

> About 5 years ago I was told that Fram made them.  Now I hear that Fram
> no longer does.  If not, who?  What's the proven difference?  Data?
> What's the best rated filter for Honda overall...OEM or otherwise?
>
> Kevin
jim beam - 23 May 2006 02:15 GMT
> Several months ago a moderator and former mechanic cut open a bunch of
> filters and put the findings on the Honda Element Owners Club site:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> quality as the one previously and they're hard to find. There's almost a
> black market to find those old (A01, I think) filters now.

no need for a black market: just buy the denso filter shown on this page:

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/ipb/wizard.jsp?partner=ipb&clientid=alleura
sianautoparts&baseurl=http://www.alleurasianautoparts.com/&cookieid=1RR1AWL081T4
12SC6X&year=1989&make=HO&model=CRX-DX-002&category=A&part=Oil+Filter


>>About 5 years ago I was told that Fram made them.  Now I hear that Fram
>>no longer does.  If not, who?  What's the proven difference?  Data?
>>What's the best rated filter for Honda overall...OEM or otherwise?
>>
>>Kevin
 
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