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Car Forum / Honda Cars / June 2006

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changing gear ratio in 4g civic?

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arficus@yahoo.com - 04 Jun 2006 00:26 GMT
I've been busy upgrading my 88 hatch- my 1st Honda, bought maybe 3
months ago. Thought I'd finally focus on the drivetrain some, and
figured the 4-speed tranny would be the 1st thing to go.  I
guessed/assumed that the typical 4G civic 5-speed tranny would NOT be
close-ratio, would likely have a taller top gear than my 4-speed, but
would likely have a shorter 4th gear than my 4th. In other words, I
assumed any 5-speed would give me at least a slightly closer ratio
between gears. So, you can imagine my disappointment (umm, aka how
stupid I feel) having just discovered the 5-speed I pulled from a CRX
and just got done installing in my car has a 3rd gear taller than top
gear! Then, suddenly I remembered some snippet of info I'd heard over
the years about CRX HFs, high fuel economy, and bizarre gearing... So,
the (blindly optimistic) question is:

Can I just swap the ring and pinion from my 4-speed into this 5-speed
(both are 88') to change ratio?
jim beam - 04 Jun 2006 03:14 GMT
> I've been busy upgrading my 88 hatch- my 1st Honda, bought maybe 3
> months ago. Thought I'd finally focus on the drivetrain some, and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Can I just swap the ring and pinion from my 4-speed into this 5-speed
> (both are 88') to change ratio?

it's not worth the effort - just go straight to the 5-speed box and
enjoy.  3rd, 4th & 5th are relatively close ratio and fun to use.

and while you're in upgrade mode, go to a junk yard and pick up a cam
from a dx or si /and/ modify the tandem valve stop so it opens fully.
and get the dx manifold.
jim beam - 04 Jun 2006 16:38 GMT
>> I've been busy upgrading my 88 hatch- my 1st Honda, bought maybe 3
>> months ago. Thought I'd finally focus on the drivetrain some, and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> it's not worth the effort - just go straight to the 5-speed box and
> enjoy.  3rd, 4th & 5th are relatively close ratio and fun to use.

should add: use a 5-speed box from anything /but/ the hf!

> and while you're in upgrade mode, go to a junk yard and pick up a cam
> from a dx or si /and/ modify the tandem valve stop so it opens fully.

[because it's restricted on the std, the one you have]

> and get the dx manifold.
 
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