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97 Civic LX,maintenance/sell opinions?

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Scott Davis - 04 Jun 2006 01:35 GMT
Hi, Folks.

I've got a 97 Civic LX, 4 Dr, Stick/Air/ABS, in Toronto, ON, Canada.
It's got 160KKms on it. (about 100,00 miles)

I'd like to hear your opinions - about keep it for a couple more years
and maintain it vs. trade it in..  (probbably for an accord)..

I purchased it new, in 97, because I knew it'd last without incurring
stupid high maintenance costs later in its' life.  I'm now in the
process of trying to decide about maintenance costs vs. trading it in
for a new Honda.

Really, it's been a great little car.  Totally reliable.  Meets my needs
in all respects.  I'd love to put it in a time capsule for 50 years and
see it again when I'm 83 years old.

I've treated it well -- done regular oil changes at roughly 5KKm
intervals, timing belt at 100KKms, water pump, plug wires, etc..

My problems with this one have been:

1) A little electrical problem that probbably resulted from driving over
an ice-bank up here in Canada.. shorting of something.  Gauges all went
nuts.

2) I think the Exhaust manifold has cracked again (first replaced under
warranty).. Is this a common defect?  The car has had no crashes, other
than typical canadian winter snow-bank bunking.

3) It seems to eat windshields at an abhorrant rate (about to put my 3rd
on it..).

4) Alternator went insane recently.  Out-ed close to 19.5V, which cooked
the battery.

The current problems are:

A)  The air conditioning is weak.  I have no idea what that'll cost to
get fixed.

B)  I own two sets of tires (winter, summer)..  but only one set of rims.

C)  Windshield needs to be replaced.

D)  Pads on front rotors got done around 75KKms, I assume, now, at
160KKMs, there's significant cost about to be discovered regarding
brakes.  (What's typical for this vehicle? -- rotors at this point?  How
about the rear drums&pads?)

Thanks for taking the time to read this, everyone!

Replies cc'd to the (valid) email address included would be VM appreciated.

Cheers,
Scott.
SoCalMike - 04 Jun 2006 06:44 GMT
> Hi, Folks.
>
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> I'd like to hear your opinions - about keep it for a couple more years
> and maintain it vs. trade it in..  (probbably for an accord)..

ALWAYS better to clean it up and sell it private party. ALWAYS! ive had
2 salesmen tell me this, when i brought my 1998 civic hatch in to the
toyota dealers. checkin out the scion xA :)

in fact, one of the salesmen took my info and says he might be
interested in it for himself. i told him im in no hurry to sell, car
runs fine, etc.

> I purchased it new, in 97, because I knew it'd last without incurring
> stupid high maintenance costs later in its' life.  I'm now in the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> an ice-bank up here in Canada.. shorting of something.  Gauges all went
> nuts.

did you get the prob fixed? might be a loose connector or ground?

> 2) I think the Exhaust manifold has cracked again (first replaced under
> warranty).. Is this a common defect?  The car has had no crashes, other
> than typical canadian winter snow-bank bunking.
>
> 3) It seems to eat windshields at an abhorrant rate (about to put my 3rd
> on it..).

im still on my first, though its sand-pitted.

> 4) Alternator went insane recently.  Out-ed close to 19.5V, which cooked
> the battery.

you got it fixed, though... right?

> The current problems are:
>
> A)  The air conditioning is weak.  I have no idea what that'll cost to
> get fixed.

might just need a charge of 134.

> B)  I own two sets of tires (winter, summer)..  but only one set of rims.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> brakes.  (What's typical for this vehicle? -- rotors at this point?  How
> about the rear drums&pads?)

all that work is STILL going to be way less than payments on an accord.
TeGGeR® - 04 Jun 2006 14:35 GMT
>> Hi, Folks.
>>
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>
> ALWAYS better to clean it up and sell it private party. ALWAYS!

Not in Ontario, Canada. Tax laws here heavily favor dealer trade-in. That's
why the private market here has totally dried up.

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Scott Davis - 05 Jun 2006 00:27 GMT
> you got it fixed, though... right?

Sorry, Mike.  I should have stated that the numeric things have been
fixed.  The "lettered" list is the outstanding (unresolved) issues.

>> A)  The air conditioning is weak.  I have no idea what that'll cost to
>> get fixed.
> might just need a charge of 134.

Any hints about what I might expect to spend for that, even in your
local currency?

>> B)  I own two sets of tires (winter, summer)..  but only one set of rims.

I guess I should just get off my lazy butt and call a few shops to see
what they'd charge me for a second set of rims, right?

>> D)  Pads on front rotors got done around 75KKms, I assume, now, at
>> 160KKMs, there's significant cost about to be discovered regarding
>> brakes.  (What's typical for this vehicle? -- rotors at this point?  
>> How about the rear drums&pads?)
>
> all that work is STILL going to be way less than payments on an accord.

Mike, thanks for the advice -- but do you (or anyone reading this?) have
any clue what typical pad/rotor/drum lifetimes are like, roughly?  I
mean -- I have NO CLUE what's typical.

Thanks, Mike!

-- Scott.
Chicken - 06 Jun 2006 10:14 GMT
> >> D)  Pads on front rotors got done around 75KKms, I assume, now, at
> >> 160KKMs, there's significant cost about to be discovered regarding
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> any clue what typical pad/rotor/drum lifetimes are like, roughly?  I
> mean -- I have NO CLUE what's typical.

They could be anything.  My  '96 Civic with 160k miles still has about 30%
of the original pads and about 50% of the original shoes.  But my friends go
through pads every other years.  It all depends on how one drives, traffic,
etc...
johnin - 04 Jun 2006 23:37 GMT
Scott  i have a hard time believing you have had all this happen
on your 97 Civic i mean were not talking about a domestic
DODGE "CHRY-SELLER"  :O  or ford product here uuhmm im gonna
say your probably better off cutting your losses and trade it in for a newer vehicle

--
johnin
 
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