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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 2006

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'99 Honda Accord noise/whine after cambelt replacement

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darglo - 20 Jul 2006 00:23 GMT
My Honda dealer just replaced a cambelt in my Honda Accord 1.8 Vreg.
Everything was fine until I started hearing a whine after done 300
miles since this sservice.
The service said, that it is typical and it's nothing to worry about,
but I let them to do the replacement one more time as a part of
guaranty.
Is it a problem of wrong adjustment of the belt they did ??

I hope you came accross this problem as well.
jim beam - 20 Jul 2006 03:01 GMT
> My Honda dealer just replaced a cambelt in my Honda Accord 1.8 Vreg.
> Everything was fine until I started hearing a whine after done 300
> miles since this sservice.
> The service said, that it is typical

rubbish.

> and it's nothing to worry about,

it's nothing for /them/ to worry about because they get to sell you
thousands of dollars of new valve gear when the belt snaps.

> but I let them to do the replacement one more time as a part of
> guaranty.
> Is it a problem of wrong adjustment of the belt they did ??

yes.  belt adjusted too tight.

> I hope you came accross this problem as well.

take it back and keep taking it back until they do it right.  call
customer service at honda usa if you don't get satisfaction.
alternatively, find a different dealer or independent repair shop.
excess belt tension can lead to sudden failure, and that's expensive.
allenman - 28 Nov 2006 20:29 GMT
I had a 1997 Honda Accord SiR station wagon, VETC 2200 cc engine
cambelt be replaced after done 100k, when i start the car in th
morning when engine is cold, the noise come from engine sounds lik
cambelt hits the cover, after 2 minutes when the engine getting hot
the noise gone, is this normal? i take the car to the workshop the
said it's normal and don't need to worry about, but I don't believ
them at all

Could give me a hint for the problem? cambel too tight or too loose

Thanks in  advance

jim beam;21624 Wrote:
> > My Honda dealer just replaced a cambelt in my Honda Accord 1.8 Vreg
> > Everything was fine until I started hearing a whine after done 30
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> alternatively, find a different dealer or independent repair shop
> excess belt tension can lead to sudden failure, and that's expensive

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allenma
motsco_ - 28 Nov 2006 20:42 GMT
> I had a 1997 Honda Accord SiR station wagon, VETC 2200 cc engine,
> cambelt be replaced after done 100k, when i start the car in the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thanks in  advance

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If it sings like a harmonica, it's too tight. Yours sounds too loose
which is worse, judging by your description, since it can jump teeth
right away and shred your engine.

Tight belt may snap or wear out water pump and idler bearing.

You need to provide a better description of the sound . . .

'Curly'
allenman - 28 Nov 2006 23:01 GMT
The noise only raise when the engine is cold, the noise sound
clanking,like something knocks(or raps) the metallic cambelt cover
sharp and hard but not resonant,if I speed up the engine, the knock
getting more quick with the speed changes, but after engine runs for
or 2 minutes and getting hot, the noise gone

If I start the engine when it hot, the engine sounds OK

motsco_;74257 Wrote:
> > I had a 1997 Honda Accord SiR station wagon, VETC 2200 cc engine
> > cambelt be replaced after done 100k, when i start the car in th
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>
> 'Curly

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allenma
Tegger - 29 Nov 2006 00:36 GMT
> The noise only raise when the engine is cold, the noise sounds
> clanking,like something knocks(or raps) the metallic cambelt cover,
> sharp and hard but not resonant,if I speed up the engine, the knocks
> getting more quick with the speed changes, but after engine runs for 1
> or 2 minutes and getting hot, the noise gone.

That's piston slap. Don't worry about it.

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allenman - 01 Dec 2006 02:07 GMT
But I can not understand why it happened only after the cambelt bee
changed, could anyone point how I can test the cambelt is too loose o
too tight

Thanks a lo

Tegger;74503 Wrote:

> > The noise only raise when the engine is cold, the noise sound
> > clanking,like something knocks(or raps) the metallic cambelt cover
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> 'The Unofficial Honda / Acura Usenet FAQ
> (http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

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allenma
Tegger - 01 Dec 2006 13:35 GMT
> Tegger;74503 Wrote:
>>
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> changed, could anyone point how I can test the cambelt is too loose or
> too tight?

The valve cover will have to be removed. The crankshaft is then slightly
turned by hand (with a socket on the pulley) to put all the slack on one
side. If there's NO slack, then it's too tight.

If there's *too much* slack, there will be obvious evidence on the
underside of the valve cover, assuming a DOHC; SOHC will slap the timing
belt cover. Either way, all the writing will have been scuffed off the belt
and there may be powder everywhere.

A too-tight belt normally whines/whirs all the time, not just when cold. I
wonder if you're just suddenly aware of a sound that was already there
beforehand.

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johnin - 20 Jul 2006 14:46 GMT
Jim beam is RIGHT! its way too tight!  take it back and complain  make them fix it properly thats why you went there in the first place to have done right"

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