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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2006Helms Manual for 93 del sol
If you've got one lying around in good/decent condition, i'll buy it from you. I really need the drivetrain & engine sections badly. My clutch is bad and i want to replace it myself, but i don't want to wait 4-5 weeks to order it from Helminc.com. it's out of print so it has to be printed per order, thus taking so long to get it. If you don't have one that you want to sell, would you be willing to run off or scan the drivetrain & engine sections for me? I'll need the sections that will show me all the details of the clutch, gear box, drive shaft and engine. do i need other sections to replace my clutch? thanks! > If you've got one lying around in good/decent condition, i'll buy it > from you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > thanks! it's just a civic. likely your local library has a copy on the manual they can order in for you. you can legally copy the relevant sections for your personal use. thanks jim beam. i forgot that the library is still a great resource compared to the net. > > If you've got one lying around in good/decent condition, i'll buy it > > from you. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > they can order in for you. you can legally copy the relevant sections > for your personal use. www.autozone.com 's free online manual for your 93 Del Sol duplicates much, if not all, of the factory service manual. See http://autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/15/71 /d7/0900823d801571d7.jsp Compare its steps to the factory service manual's steps for the CRX (which is very close or dead on to your Del Sol) at http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/CRXManual/62SH200/8-4.pdf Good exploded parts drawings may also be had at www.slhonda.com 's parts site. > If you've got one lying around in good/decent condition, > i'll buy it [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > thanks! Thanks, i'll check it out. BTW, I got my clutch replaced yesterday by a mechanic and the clutch is butter smooth now. i'm kinda glad i didn't try to tackle the job myself. lotta work. but i definitely want to get a manual to work on other stuff myself. > www.autozone.com 's free online manual for your 93 Del Sol > duplicates much, if not all, of the factory service manual. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > thanks! Want to say what your mechanic charged? That's often helpful to others. For the archives, I see the unofficial FAQ site for this newsgroup has an even better link to online manuals than Autozone's: http://search.ebscohost.com/ Login (for free) using the username "lib" and the password "access." Click on "Auto Repair Reference Center." This seems to have repair procedures for all years except maybe the most recent. This site's procedures load faster than Autozone's but otherwise appear to duplicate, word for word, the Autozone's sites procedures. The Ebsco site's Honda procedures contain the following acknowledgment: "The Publisher expresses appreciation to Honda Motor Company, Ltd., for their generous assistance." Nice update on the clutch. I just completed a manual transmissions course and want to try doing this job myself when my 91 Civic's clutch starts slipping. I printed out the Alldata procedures (accessible to most technicians or automotive repair students and once in awhile through the computers at the public library) but they differ little from my Chilton's or the ebsco site above. > Thanks, i'll check it out. > BTW, I got my clutch replaced yesterday by a mechanic and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to work on > other stuff myself. the mechanic, who freelances and does jobs in people's own garage, chaged $500 for parts and labor. parts were all new, but not Honda parts. The flywheel was remanufactured, though. He replaced all the associated clutch parts, including the rear main seal and pilot bearing. he spent the entire day, from noon to 9pm, with some breaks and lots of conversations in between. I think if he really wanted to, he could've done it in about 4 hours. But he was really meticulous and wanted to take his time. since he didn't charge me an hourly rate, it didn't matter to me, as long as he was done in one day. I watch him as much as i could, but didn't see the entire procedure, so here are some insights. He used a type of engine brace with lots of chains and straps instead of a hoist to keep the engine in place when the gearbox was dropped. He used a piston jack to support and drop the gearbox. The only thing i noticed about the new clutch is that it feels much softer than what i'm used to in a honda clutch. I drove a 90 civc dx for 10 years and my 93 del sol si for about 4 years and i'm used to a heavy clutch pedal and some pop/feel when i release the clutch pedal when it engages. Now it's really smooth when the pedal is released. He told me that that was normal for a newly installed clutch and that it would feel heavier as it gets older. (I'm wondering if a genuine Honda clutch kit would feel more familiar.) If i had to do it again, i would order a genuine honda clutch kit and have him install it. He said he's been a mechanic for 10 years and has only used aftermarket parts without any problems. He said my clutch should last 100k miles, if i don't abuse it. speaking of abuse, he said that my clutch still had lots of miles left on it, but it's life was shortened because of my driving habbits. What happened was that one of the four springs popped out, he said it was because i have a tendency to release the clutch pedal too quickly and shifted too abruptly. I disagreed somewhat because i always thought i was pretty easy on the clutch. Thanks for the info on the online service manual. Good luck on your clutch job. > Want to say what your mechanic charged? That's often helpful > to others. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > to work on > > other stuff myself. Great update. Sounds like a fair price, even with the aftermarket parts. I am not quite convinced that OEM is the only reasonable way to go for a clutch job. > the mechanic, who freelances and does jobs in people's own > garage, [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > Good luck on your clutch job. The parts about a newly installed clutch being soft, and the customer releasing it too quickly, I can't agree with those. I wonder if this mechanic has been to law school, because he is just pulling stuff out of this butt. Earle > Great update. > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > Good luck on your clutch job. > the mechanic, who freelances and does jobs in people's own garage, > chaged $500 for parts and labor. parts were all new, but not Honda [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > because i have a tendency to release the clutch pedal too quickly and > shifted too abruptly. possible, but not likely. much more likely the spring fatigued, then worked its way out on its own. regarding quality of the parts, oem is guaranteed good. the only way to exceed it is some of the high end after-market racing products, but those have driveability issues for a daily ride. > I disagreed somewhat because i always thought i > was pretty easy on the clutch. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >>> to work on >>> other stuff myself. |
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