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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2006brake squeal - (400$ -autoshope quoted.) quote too high??
I have a 2004 Honda Accord coupe and it has about 33K miles on it. I had the 30 K servicing done about 3 months ago. Couple of weeks after my 30K servicing, I started hearing the brakes squeal - very faintly. I could only hear if there is no background noise etc. The squeal has become louder (not too loud but it's easier to hear than at first) recently so I took it to a auto shop. The shop gave me a quote after the 'free inspection'. The quote is 400 bucks! I thought it's a little high because I was expecting at most 100 (don't ask me why I came up with my 100$ estimate - it's just that I thought nothing fancy is needed.) Granted, I am a auto-dummy with very very little idea about cars. But still!! The quote mentioned what they will do for the 400$. 1) resurface the break rotors 2) remove & replace brake pads (FRONT) 3) clean and adjust rear drum brake (LABOR only) 4) 45 point brake inspection! - lot of items listed on the quote 5) brake flush package - lot of items listed on the quote Is 400$ justified and necessary to fix the brake squeal? I was told that brake pads need to be replaced but I called another shop and they said they charge 140$ for the brake pads. But maybe there is more to the squeal than just the brake pads. Regardless, I will have to get this problem fixed because Idon't want to take chance with the brake pads. I will get this done in a week. In the mean time, I appreciate any advise you may have ... TIA, Tian > I have a 2004 Honda Accord coupe and it has about 33K miles on it. I > had the 30 K servicing done about 3 months ago. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The shop gave me a quote after the 'free inspection'. The quote is 400 > bucks! ARe you pulling our collective legs - were the front brake pads replaced at the 30K service interval? WHo did the 30K service - if they used somethign other than Honda pads - you could be getting a squeal off the pads - I assume the squeal is only when you apply the brakes. BTW - replacing brake pads on a honda after 30K says you are either riding your brakes or are driving constantly in traffic and on the brakes a lot - got 80K+ on my first set of honda pads. Forgetabout giving anybody $400 - it only takes a few minutes to inspect your brake pads yourself - get a helms manual and you can replace your brake pads in less than an hour. What kind of shop charges $400 for an inspection - sounds like a crook to me - not even dealers do that kind of thing - well none that I know of anyway. > ARe you pulling our collective legs - were the front brake pads > replaced at the 30K service interval? They were not replaced during the 30K service .... > What kind of shop charges $400 for an inspection - sounds like a crook > to me - not even dealers do that kind of thing - well none that I know > of anyway. I am not sure if its clear from my first post but the inspection was indeed free. After the inspection (I left the car at the auto shop for about 2 hours) when I went back, I told the autoshop guy I will have to think about it since its lot more ($400) than I expected to do all these things. So the $400 is for the items that I listed there in my original (first) post. >> ARe you pulling our collective legs - were the front brake pads >> replaced at the 30K service interval? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > these things. So the $400 is for the items that I listed there in my > original (first) post. they're tying to rip you. the chanced of honda pads needing replacement in only 30k is slim to zero. if you're worried, get a second opinion from a reputable independent mechanic. > >> ARe you pulling our collective legs - were the front brake pads > >> replaced at the 30K service interval? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > in only 30k is slim to zero. if you're worried, get a second opinion > from a reputable independent mechanic. I second that. I have 80k on the original pads in my 1999 Civic. I do live in the country, but it is mountainous here and the vehicle has been driven in some city traffic too. Get a second opinion. Earle > I have a 2004 Honda Accord coupe and it has about 33K miles on it. I > had the 30 K servicing done about 3 months ago. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > TIA, > Tian You said "auto shop." I suppose it was some place like Tires R Us or Midas. Recommend you see your local Honda dealer. My experience on Hondas is that your brakes will last a lot longer than 33k miles. Job should not cost more than a $200 tops. Perhaps the 45 pt inspection is expensive. Also believe your rear brakes are self adjusting and cleaning is probably not needed. And unless you are noticing your car shaking excessively when braking at highway speeds which is caused by the warping of your rotors you don't need to have the rotors resurfaced. Even then they should be replaced and not resurfaced. Make sure whatever place you go to, you explicitly tell them that. I've seen Honda dealers scam people into that around the Philadelphia area. Good Luck, Nick >I have a 2004 Honda Accord coupe and it has about 33K miles on it. I >had the 30 K servicing done about 3 months ago. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >TIA, >Tian > I have a 2004 Honda Accord coupe and it has about 33K miles on it. I > had the 30 K servicing done about 3 months ago. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > noise etc. The squeal has become louder (not too loud but it's easier > to hear than at first) recently so I took it to a auto shop. Your first mistake was to take the car to an aftermarket brake shop that was hungry for work. These places hook you with the old "bait and switch" scam, with ultra-cheap-quality parts, and with a scarily-long list of stuff that was found during the "free" inspection. Your second mistake was to not realize your car is *still under warranty*. Taking a car this new to a brake/muffler shop is a risky endeavor. Suppose there was aTSB for your problem? You'd never know, going to a brake shop. You appear to be in California, so rust is not a factor for your brakes. Squealing can be several things, from worn pads to dust. Your local dealer is your best choice here. They would be less likely to attempt to frighten you into spending more money than you need to. > The shop gave me a quote after the 'free inspection'. The quote is 400 > bucks! I thought it's a little high because I was expecting at most 100 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The quote mentioned what they will do for the 400$. > 1) resurface the break rotors Unneeded and undesirable if braking is still smooth. > 2) remove & replace brake pads (FRONT) > 3) clean and adjust rear drum brake (LABOR only) NOT NEEDED! Your drums are good for at LEAST 70K without any maintenance at all. Drums adjust automatically. If your parking brake works OK, then the adjusters are working. > 4) 45 point brake inspection! - lot of items listed on the quote > 5) brake flush package - lot of items listed on the quote A brake flush is a good idea, but not from those sharks you went to. Go to your local dealer. Let them fix it.  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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