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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 200695 Integra - Ongoing Alignment Problem
Hello Everyone, need some advice.... I've been having this ongoing problem with my alignment since I got my Integra from my cousin. Yes it was also involved in a front and rear collision (by her), but I don't see any signs of frame damage. The inner walls are once again beginning to wear with no wear on the outside yet. The tires were purchases 6-8 months ago. About 2 years ago I took the car into an alignment mom and pop shop and after a year the same results came back. After I brought this up with them they pretty much blew it off and it wasn't worth my time settling up in court. I was more pissed off that I caught them as they did nothing with the tie rod since I had to use acetylene them to get them to move so that I could adjust them. Seeing that the tires were worn in the inner walls ie. toe out, I moved the tie rod in two turns. Well since I noticed the problem occurring again I tried turning both sides in an additional two turns which made my tires start to squeak loudly, so I moved them back. I've thrown the towel in since I'm not going to get this fixed. Now I'd like to know where I can take the car to get the alignment done and get it done right. I'd be willing to get two new tires as well but I want to be assured that if they don't fix it and the exact same problem occurs, that they will comp me for the tires. I know that it is unlikely that anyone would do this so I need to know what people think I should do at this point. Thanks in advance, Nick Look for a frame alignment shop - one of the places that straightens out bent frames. Ask the local Honda dealer who they use. Whatever is wrong is most likely one of the "unadjustable" settings has been bent out of spec in one of the accidents. These places will have the equipment to get it back into spec. Mom & pop shops (and chain alignment/tire shops for that matter) usually do not have the equipment to repair these settings except by replacing parts. Unless it needs major suspension parts replacement, it probably won't cost much more than a normal alignment. On 8/30/06 5:52 PM, in article nq4cf2phoq48v9tihp3rpqi2nvtlfd6dd2@4ax.com, > Hello Everyone, need some advice.... > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Thanks in advance, > Nick > Hello Everyone, need some advice.... > > I've been having this ongoing problem with my alignment since > I got my Integra from my cousin. Yes it was also involved in a front > and rear collision (by her), but I don't see any signs of frame > damage. Yeah, YOU don't. But how are YOU able to judge? By just looking at the car? Nuh-uh. > The inner walls are once again beginning to wear with no wear > on the outside yet. The tires were purchases 6-8 months ago. > About 2 years ago I took the car into an alignment mom and pop > shop and after a year the same results came back. After I brought this > up with them they pretty much blew it off and it wasn't worth my time > settling up in court. My goodness, The chip on your shoulder is getting bigger by the word. > I was more pissed off that I caught them as they > did nothing with the tie rod since I had to use acetylene them to get > them to move so that I could adjust them. > Seeing that the tires were worn in the inner walls ie. toe > out, Buddy, negative toe is only ONE reason for inner tread wear. I moved the tie rod in two turns. Well since I noticed the > problem occurring again I tried turning both sides in an additional > two turns which made my tires start to squeak loudly, so I moved them > back. Ah, the expert has failed to correct the problem! How about that? Perhaps he does not actually know what's wrong... > I've thrown the towel in since I'm not going to get this > fixed. Now I'd like to know where I can take the car to get the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > know that it is unlikely that anyone would do this so I need to know > what people think I should do at this point. Well, if somebody like you came into my shop and I knew his history, I'd tell him to take a hike and not even book the car in. Wonder why? Look, the car's been poked up the a.s and the other end by your own admission (but with no indication of the extent of the damage...). You obviously have NO idea how little it takes to wreck a unibody. The unibody may well be damaged beyond economic correction.  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ As I had previously stated, I tried going to a mom and pop place, and explained to the exact problem before they did the alignment and that didn't work. That's the only reason why I tried to fix it myself. I know that I don't have the laser pointers like the professional shops have to properly align the car. And if you have the "I know everything" attitude, keep the comments to yourself please. I'd rather have no-one respond to my comments than have responses like yours. >> Hello Everyone, need some advice.... >> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >The unibody may well be damaged beyond economic correction. > As I had previously stated, I tried going to a mom and pop place, and > explained to the exact problem before they did the alignment and that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And if you have the "I know everything" attitude, keep the comments to > yourself please. This is an open forum. Get used to it. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ <snip>> toe problems are common - in my experience usually because alignment is set wrong by whoever adjusts it. take it to a shop and specify the rear is set per the book, and the front to parallel. book for the front is actually quite a wide spec, so a lot of places seem to set it for "wear the tires faster". regarding the frame, if it's bent, you need it straightened. depending on the damage, it's not necessarily the end of the world. my civic's about 1" shorter than factory, but it tracks ok and the wheels align ok in the hands of someone that knows their business. Thanks for the advice. I'm going to look around for a reputable frame repair shop. Thanks, Nick ><snip>> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >about 1" shorter than factory, but it tracks ok and the wheels align ok >in the hands of someone that knows their business. i agree with tegger on this one, i wouldn't want to deal with you as a customer in my shop either, if you know what the problem, then fix it yourself is what i would say. if the adjustments can't be made they probably set the toe (correctly) and did as best as possible with the rest. bring to a frame alignment shop, check control arms to see if they are bent, its been whacked. sh*t can't be turned into sugar just because you want to. Signaturesr20dk http://www.automotiveforums.com |
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