> I have two 2005 Honda Ciciv LX Special Editions. No. 1 gets 31mpg
> overall, No. 2 is usually 22 mpg overall, with a best tank at 25.8 mpg.
> I purchased it used with about 14,000 miles
> > I have two 2005 Honda Ciciv LX Special Editions. No. 1 gets 31mpg
> > overall, No. 2 is usually 22 mpg overall, with a best tank at 25.8 mpg.
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> Is the car using much oil? Running OEM wheels/tires? Anything besides
> mpg you've noticed about the car?
I do not know about the oil usage or air filter. The tire pressure did
get a bit low recently, however we have pretty much been on top of it.
The dealership did do diagnostics which should have shown a clogged air
filter. The only thing that they could come with was driving style.
But I cannot imagine a 8 mpg difference from the expected 30 mpg city.
My next step is to have the oil changed.
ACAR - 05 Oct 2006 12:55 GMT
> The dealership did do diagnostics which should have shown a clogged air
> filter.
Actually, this is not true. Not unless the air filter is pretty much
blocked. Electronic diagnostics is a simple search for trouble codes.
The only thing that they could come with was driving style.
> But I cannot imagine a 8 mpg difference from the expected 30 mpg city.
> My next step is to have the oil changed.
You may want to invest in a tune-up, too. Maybe have them check the
brakes, while they're got the car on the lift. Even with just 14K
miles, you may be well served by having a technician give the car a
thorough mechanical check.
jim beam - 05 Oct 2006 15:48 GMT
>> The dealership did do diagnostics which should have shown a clogged air
>> filter.
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> miles, you may be well served by having a technician give the car a
> thorough mechanical check.
at 14k??? how much experience do you have with cars? seriously, please
tell.
ACAR - 05 Oct 2006 16:06 GMT
> at 14k??? how much experience do you have with cars? seriously, please
> tell.
enough to know that a used car with 14K miles could have been abused.
TE Chea - 05 Oct 2006 15:38 GMT
In 6-02 I saw a new Civic vtec 1.6 litre with very short * : a waste of
vtec ( no way is torque / mpg esp @ high rpm maximised ).
www.turborick.com/gsxr1127/gasoline.html para 10.2(1) indicates
how bad a civic's * is. Many car makers ( incl Nissan in Sunny 130Y
, Hyundai in Sonata 2.4, Proton in Waja 1.8 ) save on *, because 99.9
% buyers have no chance to test drive on highways, or know /
experienced a difference between short & long branch *.
Honda fits only short branch ( 4 into 1 pipe ), cheap & heavy cast
iron * for its engines <2.2 litre
www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/catimgs/13sm40_d08.gif
, even a F22A's *'s twin pipes are short.
www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d800cf8b3.gif
Results are [i] lower though adequate torque @ low rpm ( as during
buyers' test drives ), but very low ( <½ as much ) torque & mpg @
high ( >3000 ) rpm : inadequacy increases with rpm. [ii] on highway
when >3000 rpm is needed, user cannot change gear from neutral to
drive w-o a jerk ; crank shaft etc. cannot spin fast enough from idle to
>3000 rpm [iii] cooling is worse. These are reasons why expensive
cars have long branch *. http://circletrack.com/techarticles/73598
My local-made 4-2-1 * [i] uses aluminised mild steel [ii] is 13 kg
< original * [iii] has longer twin pipes than a F22A's * [iv] twin
pipes' interiors' total cross section area is 60% > original * ( single
pipe )'s.
Many ways to chk car / engine's efficiency, e.g. chk compression.
www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/0c/f3/e5
/0900823d800cf3e5.jsp