We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to see my
wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few
inches of snow. The tires have less than 20k on them.
Needless to say we will be getting another SUV; a Jeep or maybe a FJCruiser.
I feel sorry for anyone stick driving a CRV.
My RAV4 got through the 8 inches of snow to get into the drive way the plow
pushed in front of it.
News - 15 Feb 2007 13:18 GMT
> We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to see my
> wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few
> inches of snow. The tires have less than 20k on them.
Could it be your technique?
Ours handles snow and ice just fine, thanks.
Slim - 26 Feb 2007 03:08 GMT
>> We had a small snow storm on the east coast.
sh.t like that has been known to happen.
>> I had never been home to see my wife drive her car.
You should get home more often.
>> The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few inches of snow.
Who was driving it, you, you wife, or her boyfriend...since you "had
never been home to see my wife drive her car. ?
>> The tires have less than 20k on them.
El Cheapo's or what? A brand and model would go a long way here.
Perhaps instead of driving, WHOEVER was driving your wife's car should
have called a cab.
-Slim
Dano58 - 15 Feb 2007 14:32 GMT
> We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to see my
> wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My RAV4 got through the 8 inches of snow to get into the drive way the plow
> pushed in front of it.
What kind of tires? Snow tires or all-seasons? Also, was it snow or
ice?
I feel sorry for anyone stuck driving a Jeep or (barf) FJ Cruiser.
Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA
motsco_ - 15 Feb 2007 14:49 GMT
> I feel sorry for anyone stuck driving a Jeep or (barf) FJ Cruiser.
>
> Dan D
> '07 Ody EX
> Central NJ USA
-----------------------------------------
Jeeps look good upside down. There's one on the evening news every time
we get a big storm and the Whitemud Freeway gets ICY. Rednecks don't
feel they have to slow down.
Good tires and driving skills make all the difference. I've had three
CR-Vs but the one with 'all seasons' was terrible for snow / ice.
'Curly'
AZ Nomad - 15 Feb 2007 20:43 GMT
>> I feel sorry for anyone stuck driving a Jeep or (barf) FJ Cruiser.
>>
>> Dan D
>> '07 Ody EX
>> Central NJ USA
>-----------------------------------------
>Jeeps look good upside down. There's one on the evening news every time
>we get a big storm and the Whitemud Freeway gets ICY. Rednecks don't
>feel they have to slow down.
When I lived in colorado, it was a cliche how 49 out of 50 vehicles that
sailed off road and had to be towed out were 4WD. The idiots who owned
them thought they made them invincible and were too stupid to realize that
they had the same braking as a standard car and worse handling.
Gordon McGrew - 16 Feb 2007 00:04 GMT
>> We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to see my
>> wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>What kind of tires? Snow tires or all-seasons? Also, was it snow or
>ice?
Snow tires make a huge difference. My GS-R had no trouble during the
heavy snow in Chicago this week. I was easily faster and had more
control than 90% of the vehicles driving including the SUVs. I have
Nokian tires but I don't think they are available anymore. Michelin
and Bridgestone also make very good winter tires.
>I feel sorry for anyone stuck driving a Jeep or (barf) FJ Cruiser.
>
>Dan D
>'07 Ody EX
>Central NJ USA
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 16 Feb 2007 01:13 GMT
> Snow tires make a huge difference. My GS-R had no trouble during the
> heavy snow in Chicago this week. I was easily faster and had more
> control than 90% of the vehicles driving including the SUVs. I have
> Nokian tires but I don't think they are available anymore.
Yes, they are.
I buy Nokian WR all-season tires, and they do beautifully in the snow.
They're the only all-season tire with the snowflake designator, which
makes them as good as dedicated snow tires in the winter. They're the
only tire to have this.
I will always have Nokian WR as long as I'm in a climate where it
doesn't snow huge amounts. If I moved further north, I would have
dedicated winter/snow tires and summer tires.
High Tech Misfit - 16 Feb 2007 01:48 GMT
> Snow tires make a huge difference. My GS-R had no trouble during the
> heavy snow in Chicago this week. I was easily faster and had more
> control than 90% of the vehicles driving including the SUVs. I have
> Nokian tires but I don't think they are available anymore. Michelin
> and Bridgestone also make very good winter tires.
I have Toyo Observe G-02 Plus winter tires on my Civic, and I have had no
problems plowing through the snow this winter. About a month or so ago I
was driving home from work in a snow storm, and I saw an SUV that had
skidded off the road and onto a nearby railway track.
Too bad that this railway track sees almost no traffic. Could have meant
one less SUV to worry about. :-)
High Tech Misfit - 15 Feb 2007 22:46 GMT
> We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to see my
> wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My RAV4 got through the 8 inches of snow to get into the drive way the plow
> pushed in front of it.
Multiple choice time:
a) The tires are all-seasons and not winter tires;
b) Your winter driving habits stink;
c) You are a troll;
d) All of the above.
I pick d.
Tegger - 16 Feb 2007 00:06 GMT
> We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to
> see my wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out
> of a few inches of snow. The tires have less than 20k on them.
Why would you blame the entire vehicle because of the tires you put on it?
> Needless to say we will be getting another SUV; a Jeep or maybe a
> FJCruiser.
Don't put bad tires on those, otherwise you'll be unhappy with them too.
> I feel sorry for anyone stick driving a CRV.
> My RAV4 got through the 8 inches of snow to get into the drive way the
> plow pushed in front of it.
I'll bet the RAV-4 had better tires.
The CR-V and the RAV-4 have identical operational characteristics and
similar weight. Nothing to choose from there.

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Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay - 16 Feb 2007 18:48 GMT
> We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to see my
> wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My RAV4 got through the 8 inches of snow to get into the drive way the plow
> pushed in front of it.
A Jeep or FJ will be no substitute for your sub-par driving abilities
and crappy tires.
Kaz Kylheku - 16 Feb 2007 19:13 GMT
> We had a small snow storm on the east coast. I had never been home to see my
> wife drive her car. The piece of crap 2001CRV could not get out of a few
> inches of snow. The tires have less than 20k on them.
I did quite well in a big snowstorm on the west coast, in my 1998
Civic hatchback equipped with 195/55/R15, all-season, second-hand
tires!
There was one hill where I got stuck for a couple of minutes; the ice
was polished to a shine. The traffic came to a momentary stop, and so
I lost my momentum. Eventually I found the traction and moved on up
that hill and out of there.
The difference is knowing what to do. And, of course, it helps to be
using a manual transmission instead of a slushbox.
> Needless to say we will be getting another SUV; a Jeep or maybe a FJCruiser.
Switch SUV's instead of learning how to select tires and how to drive?
That just illustrates how affluence can be no impediment to stupidity.
On a related note, isn't it striking how frequently the biggest
dumbasses on the road are behind the wheels of SUV's and minivans?
motsco_ - 16 Feb 2007 19:58 GMT
<SNIP>
> On a related note, isn't it striking how frequently the biggest
> dumbasses on the road are behind the wheels of SUV's and minivans?
================================
Actually, in Alberta they are behind the wheels of 'riced' vehicles,
with blue signal lights and blacked out windows. . . .
'Curly'
Joe LaVigne - 17 Feb 2007 06:38 GMT
> I did quite well in a big snowstorm on the west coast, in my 1998
> Civic hatchback equipped with 195/55/R15, all-season, second-hand
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> The difference is knowing what to do. And, of course, it helps to be
> using a manual transmission instead of a slushbox.
We have been getting hit with moderate snowfalls, lately (a couple feet
over the past couple weeks). I have had absolutely no complaints with my
06 Si with the Stock 17" wheels and stock all-season tires.
I had considered getting a set of snows for the winter, but I can see no
reason for them. The car handles the snow great on the all seasons.
I can't imagine having any issues at all with a 4wd...
motsco_ - 17 Feb 2007 17:29 GMT
>> I did quite well in a big snowstorm on the west coast, in my 1998
>> Civic hatchback equipped with 195/55/R15, all-season, second-hand
>> tires!
<SNIP>
> I can't imagine having any issues at all with a 4wd...
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Steering can be a problem with poor tires because the CR-V's AWD engages
on tight turns and then the front wheels seem to get pushed straight,
rather than holding their grip and going around the corner. Snow tires
really help overcome the problem, but then there's many kinds of road
conditions, and 'all-weather' tires just can't handle 'all' conditions.
'Curly'