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Car Forum / Honda Cars / June 2007Wal-mart oil
Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14 for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott In article <a683720542246d24aec6a1426bcf1904@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>, > Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at > Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same > requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14 > for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications. So much of this stuff is marketing..... > In article > <a683720542246d24aec6a1426bcf1904@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > So much of this stuff is marketing..... except that different product doesn't have the same additive package. api spec motorcraft made my seals leak like sieves. castrol stopped them leaking again. > > If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications. > > > > So much of this stuff is marketing..... > > > except that different product doesn't have the same additive package. That's correct. But that's not an "except". If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications. The engine manufacturer specifies what oil to use. If they specify Mobil 1, then use it. If they specify an oil that meets a certain API specification, then use that. Using *more* than that is the result of the marketing people getting into your head and inserting fear, uncertainty, and doubt--in order to get you to spend more money for their product. >>> If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > But that's not an "except". If it meets API specifications, it meets > API specifications. both the motorcraft and castrol oils i used were api oils - there was no way of telling based on the "information" [not] available which would be the better oil. indeed, according to the spark analysis crowd over at "bob is the oil guy", the m/c was a "good quality" oil. experience showed a very different story. > The engine manufacturer specifies what oil to use. If they specify > Mobil 1, then use it. If they specify an oil that meets a certain API [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > into your head and inserting fear, uncertainty, and doubt--in order to > get you to spend more money for their product. reality is, sometimes it's worth paying for branding. how much it's worth paying is another question, but motorcraft vs castrol, with only a few cents difference per quart? pay the extra and get the better castrol additive package! otoh, would i pay almost double for castrol "high mileage" brand? no. msds info, limited though it may be, reveals no difference between them, so i don't think it's worth the premium. To answer your actual question, here in Canada Walmart sells a brand called Tech 2000. I assume it must be similar to Supertech. The MSDS for the Tech 2000 indicates that Safety Kleen is the supplier. Based on that info, and my experience with that company in my job, I would have to think that at least a percentage of this product comes from reclaimed motor oil. My reasoning? Where do you think your used motor oil ends up when you take it to the depot? It goes to Safety Kleen... Is there anything wrong with this oil? Since it passes API standards, I guess not. But why would you want to take a chance to save such a small amount of cash on such an expensive piece of machinery? t >Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at >Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same >requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14 >for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott > The MSDS for the Tech 2000 indicates that Safety Kleen is the supplier. > Based on that info, and my experience with that company in my job, I would [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > guess not. But why would you want to take a chance to save such a small > amount of cash on such an expensive piece of machinery? That's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it is this: the base petroleum is never used up. Therefore, if the base petroleum is reclaimed and put back through the original manufacturing cycle to add the additives, who cares? On Jun 18, 10:01 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote: > > The MSDS for the Tech 2000 indicates that Safety Kleen is the supplier. > > Based on that info, and my experience with that company in my job, I would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > up. Therefore, if the base petroleum is reclaimed and put back through > the original manufacturing cycle to add the additives, who cares? Absolutely correct . The used motor oil is RE-REFINED TO API standards and then additives are introduced .This should be a much better oil than the opriginal but technically speaking ? ther is absolutely no difference. The bottom line ? OIL NEVER WEARS OUT ! But the aditives do~!!!! I used Tech 2000 for many years, years ago when I couldnt afford "name brand " oils and I never had a problem with my engines. The secret to using any oil ,and I mean ANY~! is fequent oil changes; (severe service) although Mobil 1 is good for many more miles than any dino oil and their extreme service oil is GAURANTEED FOR 15,000 MILES. Yes I use mobil 1 now ,purchased at Walmart, Niagara falls NY. Much cheaper than the same oil in Canada. > Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at > Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same > requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14 > for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott You can use it and save a few bucks, but the specific additive package can make a difference. Sludge (Quaker State of old days) build up, for instance. The name does mean something. Maybe not on the first oil change, but on the 10th or 20th. And, despite API ratings, one oil may agree with your engine, and another may not. (Off topic -- Weirdest thing I've seen yet on bobistheoilguy.com is terrible oil analyses using synthetic in an Infiniti G35. That engine hates synthetic, the wear numbers are horrible. Far better off with dino.) Re-refining? Used to be some crap called "Ring-Seal" that was made this way. It was dirt-cheap because it didn't seal rings, it just blew past them so needed no quality. I don't think any major brand, SuperTech included, is re-refined. Old oil is generally burned up as a fuel source to generate electricity. > Re-refining? Used to be some crap called "Ring-Seal" that was made > this way. It was dirt-cheap because it didn't seal rings, it just > blew past them so needed no quality. I had a 79 Civic like that. Self-changing oil. When you did a hard right and the oil light flickered, you added more. You couldn't kill that engine. well then I can't explain: 1. the cheap price - they get the base stock for free, filter it, and put in additives. 2. why would safety kleen be the supplier then? But just cuz I can't explain it doesn't mean thats the way it is or isn't... :) t >> Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at >> Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >SuperTech included, is re-refined. Old oil is generally burned up as >a fuel source to generate electricity. |
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