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Various issues with 97 Honda Civic....

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kratz7435@comcast.net - 23 Jul 2007 23:11 GMT
Hi, driving through a rainy New Jersey, I noticed that the check
engine light came AND my speedometer/odometer stopped working on my 97
Civic CX.  Both issues must have happened at the same time or nearly
so, I usually am checking my speed and such.  Could they be related?

Also, the check engine/seatbelt/emergency brake idiot lights are
slightly pulsing, they dim slightly about once a second...??

With check engine light on, the car seemed to run ok, the change in
idle rpms every few seconds, gas mileage didn't seem to bad but I
can't check with the odometer not working!

Is the speedometer a mechanical or electrical driven device on these
cars?  My Haynes doesn't have anything...

Any help or info would be appreciated, I am going out now to check
fuses, reset the computer, etc, - hopefully I find something
obvious...   thanks!! Tim
Gordon McGrew - 23 Jul 2007 23:41 GMT
>Hi, driving through a rainy New Jersey, I noticed that the check
>engine light came AND my speedometer/odometer stopped working on my 97
>Civic CX.  Both issues must have happened at the same time or nearly
>so, I usually am checking my speed and such.  Could they be related?

Almost certainly.  Fix the speedometer and the light will go out.

>Also, the check engine/seatbelt/emergency brake idiot lights are
>slightly pulsing, they dim slightly about once a second...??
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>Is the speedometer a mechanical or electrical driven device on these
>cars?  My Haynes doesn't have anything...

It is electrical.  The problem may be the Vehicle Speed Sensor which
bolts on to the transmission.  Or it could be a loose connection or
broken wire.

>Any help or info would be appreciated, I am going out now to check
>fuses, reset the computer, etc, - hopefully I find something
>obvious...   thanks!! Tim
Tegger - 24 Jul 2007 00:27 GMT
kratz7435@comcast.net wrote in news:1185228671.327302.258840
@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> Hi, driving through a rainy New Jersey, I noticed that the check
> engine light came AND my speedometer/odometer stopped working on my 97
> Civic CX.  Both issues must have happened at the same time or nearly
> so, I usually am checking my speed and such.  Could they be related?

I think you'll find this is the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS). Have the
Check Engine light code read by AutoZone or other place. Report the code
here.

> Also, the check engine/seatbelt/emergency brake idiot lights are
> slightly pulsing, they dim slightly about once a second...??
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Is the speedometer a mechanical or electrical driven device on these
> cars?  My Haynes doesn't have anything...

Haynes is crap, sorry.

> Any help or info would be appreciated, I am going out now to check
> fuses, reset the computer, etc, - hopefully I find something
> obvious...  

Make sure it's the VSS. Fix that first. Most of your other problems
should go away after that, then you can concentrate on the ones that are
left.

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kratz7435@comcast.net - 24 Jul 2007 01:00 GMT
On Jul 23, 5:11 pm, kratz7...@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi, driving through a rainy New Jersey, I noticed that the check
> engine light came AND my speedometer/odometer stopped working on my 97
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> fuses, reset the computer, etc, - hopefully I find something
> obvious...   thanks!! Tim

Actually, Haynes did have a section on testing the VSS, I just wasn't
sure what to look for at that point.  I am now sure the VSS and CEL
are related, it is most likely a bad VSS.  I displaced any water at
the VSS connection and no improvement.
Tegger - 24 Jul 2007 01:18 GMT
kratz7435@comcast.net wrote in news:1185235238.563948.320080
@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> Actually, Haynes did have a section on testing the VSS, I just wasn't
> sure what to look for at that point.  I am now sure the VSS and CEL
> are related

You cannot be "sure". You are guessing. Get the code read.

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rf_uw_engineer@yahoo.com - 24 Jul 2007 04:31 GMT
Tim, see the following bulletin for the likely cause and solution for
this problem:

http://downloads.hondatech.info/Auto/Service%20Bulletin/x99-029e.pdf
loewent - 24 Jul 2007 05:05 GMT
had this problem on my 98 civic, Tegger has pictures of my fix on his website.

>Tim, see the following bulletin for the likely cause and solution for
>this problem:
>
>http://downloads.hondatech.info/Auto/Service%20Bulletin/x99-029e.pdf
kratz7435@comcast.net - 09 Aug 2007 01:31 GMT
> had this problem on my 98 civic, Tegger has pictures of my fix on his website.
>
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> Message posted via CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/honda-cars/200707/1

Thanks to all who recommended this wiring harness fix, it worked
great!!  Has been running perfect for 2 weeks now...
 
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