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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2007

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105k maintenance cost/replacement parts

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Claudiarj - 22 Aug 2007 20:45 GMT
Hi there,

We were quoted $1,500 for the 105k maintenance on our 2000 Honda
Accord, in a large metropolitan area in the East Coast... Not a
dealership, but a reputable mechanic, one that my friends have used in
the past. I'm just balking at the price, though I know the 105k is a
big one...

We're told that replacing the timing belt, drive belt, water pump,
valves, thermostat, air filter, water filter, plugs (some of this
stuff as needed, I suppose) is included.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Claudia
loewent - 22 Aug 2007 21:34 GMT
4 cylinder or V6?  I went to ARRC to get the book times for the jobs required
as per below:

Timing Belt is 2.2hrs for 4cyl, 3.5hrs for 6cyl, plus $60 for the belt.
Another $40-50 for the water pump (labor inc in timing belt except for about
15 minutes).  The thermostat is $20, 1hr install.

Drive belts are $20 each or so (maybe cheaper).  Labor is combined with
Timing Belt. (You have to remove the drive belts to do the timing belt)

Spark Plugs have to be removed to do the valve adjustment, they are $25-40
depending what kind you get.  Valve adjustment should be 1.3 hours 4cyl, 4.
9hrs 6cyl (according to the book.  This seems very high), some combined labor
with timing belt, means discount at a good mechanic.

There is no such thing as a water filter.  Maybe a cabin air filter, not sure
if the 2000 accord came with that.

Adding up the above at $100/hr, it should come to about $680 for 4cyl, $1110
for 6cyl.  Not included in that price is new fluids, oil change, or shop
supplies, or taxes.

This is a very generous estimate.  I did a timing belt on an 01 accord 4
cylinder the other day in about 2.5hrs start to finish.  Another 2 hrs to do
the rest of the required items.

I think you are getting hosed, especially if your car is a 4 cylinder.

Get a new mechanic.

t

>Hi there,
>
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>Thanks,
>Claudia
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 22 Aug 2007 23:03 GMT
> We were quoted $1,500 for the 105k maintenance on our 2000 Honda
> Accord, in a large metropolitan area in the East Coast... Not a
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>
> Any thoughts?

That's a BUNCH.

Get a second opinion.
jim beam - 23 Aug 2007 04:18 GMT
> Hi there,
>
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> We're told that replacing the timing belt, drive belt, water pump,
> valves,

don't need to replace valves, simply adjust.

> thermostat, air filter, water filter,

no water filter.

> plugs (some of this
> stuff as needed, I suppose) is included.
>
> Any thoughts?

yes, you'll be getting the hose from this guy.  call for competitive
quotes from dealers and independent honda specialists.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 23 Aug 2007 08:14 GMT
If you have a V6, also add idler and tensioner pulleys for the timing
belt (Gates Timing Component kit is a good choice here), cam/crank oil
seals, serpentine tensioner pulley (just the pulley while the
tensioner assembly is off), valve cover gasket set, genuine Honda
coolant, and valve adjustment, it would seem like a good deal. I'd use
only NGK plugs and Honda thermostat only (these are among the few
parts I won't go aftermarket). What water filter?

www.gates.com
www.ngksparkplugs.com

> Hi there,
>
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> Thanks,
> Claudia
jim beam - 23 Aug 2007 13:42 GMT
> If you have a V6, also add idler and tensioner pulleys for the timing
> belt (Gates Timing Component kit is a good choice here), cam/crank oil
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>
> www.gates.com

what's with all this gates spam dude?  they're nothing special in my
experience - i'd certainly change it out sooner than a belt branded as
honda oem.  are you perhaps paid to endorse?

> www.ngksparkplugs.com
>
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>> Thanks,
>> Claudia
Cameron Tilson - 23 Aug 2007 15:01 GMT
While they're changing the water filter, why not install new muffler
bearings at the same time?

>> If you have a V6, also add idler and tensioner pulleys for the timing
>> belt (Gates Timing Component kit is a good choice here), cam/crank oil
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>>> Thanks,
>>> Claudia
Paul - 23 Aug 2007 15:50 GMT
> Hi there,
>
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> Thanks,
> Claudia

A few months ago I paid a little less than $1,000 for timing and drive belt
replacement, new water pump, new front seals, new coolant, new transmission
fluid and brake fluid, new front brake pads, new air conditioner filters,
one new radiator hose, tire rotation, and a valve adjustment on my 2000
Accord SE. The work was done by an independent shop in Houston, and it was
all done well, as far as I can tell, except that they overinflated my tires.

I'd expect prices to be a bit higher in your location, but $1,500 sounds too
high for the work you mention.

Paul
 
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