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Nasty - 16 Oct 2007 00:10 GMT

Here's an oddball question.

My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door
pillar. The retractor mechanism works fine. This has been a minor
annoyance all along. Today it just jerked my chain.

When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is this
common? Can it be 'fixed'?

TIA

Jim

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Tegger - 16 Oct 2007 01:03 GMT

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Here's an oddball question.
>
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> When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is this
> common? Can it be 'fixed'?

When you feed the belt all the way back in properly, is the buckle facing
towards the middle of the car or towards the door panel?

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Nasty - 16 Oct 2007 02:03 GMT

> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
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> When you feed the belt all the way back in properly, is the buckle facing
> towards the middle of the car or towards the door panel?

Toward the middle of the car.

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Tegger - 16 Oct 2007 02:17 GMT

>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
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> Toward the middle of the car.

So...

If I understand this correctly, the belt experiences NO twist between
pillar mount and buckle? Correct?

If so, I'm having trouble following how it gets twisted. How are you doing
it up?

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Nasty - 16 Oct 2007 03:33 GMT

>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
>>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
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> If I understand this correctly, the belt experiences NO twist between
> pillar mount and buckle? Correct?

Not correct, exactly.

> If so, I'm having trouble following how it gets twisted. How are you doing
> it up?

If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has a 90
degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just below the
pillar mount jamming the belt from feeding through the pillar mount.

Put differently, the belt comes up from the rewind mechanism, through
the pillar mount, folds over itself as if pulled toward the middle of
the car then toward the front, creating the 90 degree fold. (If you're
as confused as this sounds I'll post a picture tomorrow.)

Hmmmm, describing it makes me wonder if the pillar mount is not
swiveling freely toward the front when I put the belt on...

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Tegger - 16 Oct 2007 12:51 GMT

> If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has a
> 90 degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just below the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the car then toward the front, creating the 90 degree fold. (If you're
> as confused as this sounds I'll post a picture tomorrow.)

That would help.

When these belts come from the factory, there are no folds in them
anywhere. If yours twists 90 degrees, then it's been folded over at some
point, and somebody then tried to fix it by simply turning the buckle
around. There may be another fold hidden inside.

Pull the belt out ALL the way and see if you can arrange to remove the
fold(s). I think once you determine if there are any other folds and
remove them, you may find you need to turn the buckle around again.

> Hmmmm, describing it makes me wonder if the pillar mount is not
> swiveling freely toward the front when I put the belt on...

Could be. But I've never seen one that didn't swivel unless it had been
taken apart at some point and reassembled incorrectly.

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dold@61.usenet.us.com - 16 Oct 2007 04:20 GMT

> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
> won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door

My 2003 Civic is the same way. It just seems like the rewinder thingie
needs more umph.

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Nasty - 16 Oct 2007 05:15 GMT

>> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
>> won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door
>
> My 2003 Civic is the same way. It just seems like the rewinder thingie
> needs more umph.

That could be it too. Then again, I need more umph these days...

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ACAR - 16 Oct 2007 11:44 GMT

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>
> Jim

Jim,

If you find an answer (other than replacement) let me know so I can
use it on my '98 Sienna. Yeah, old age - the retraction mechanism just
doesn't have that zip anymore and the seatbelt webbing is more pliable
allowing it to twist more easily than when new. But I don't find this
nearly as annoying as a new car payment. :-)

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TomP - 20 Oct 2007 15:25 GMT

Honda seat belts have a life time warranty. Take the car to a dealer and
if they can't fix the problem with the belt; they will replace the belt.

Power Acura in CA, replaced the lap belt in my '90 Integra, in 2005: no
charge (to me.)

> Here's an oddball question.
>
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>
> Jim

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Tegger - 20 Oct 2007 15:39 GMT

TomP <---roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote in news:471A0FCA.6FBB1037
@socal.rr.com:

> Honda seat belts have a life time warranty. Take the car to a dealer and
> if they can't fix the problem with the belt; they will replace the belt.
>
> Power Acura in CA, replaced the lap belt in my '90 Integra, in 2005: no
> charge (to me.)

The warranty only covers functionality. Your '90 'Teg had those awful
"motorized mouse" belts that regularly stopped working.

The OP's belts simply won't retract properly. They still function, so the
warranty likely won't be honored in this case. Plus the warranty only
applies in the United States. Never hurts to check though.

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Grumpy AuContraire - 20 Oct 2007 21:59 GMT

> TomP <---roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote in news:471A0FCA.6FBB1037
> @socal.rr.com:
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> warranty likely won't be honored in this case. Plus the warranty only
> applies in the United States. Never hurts to check though.

I'm gonna take this at face value... The belts in both, the '82 & '83
Civics don't retrac or do so lazily, (like me), so I'm gonna try for a
fix at the Honda dealer up the street when I get 'roundtoit...

<G>

JT

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motsco_ - 20 Oct 2007 23:57 GMT

> I'm gonna take this at face value... The belts in both, the '82 & '83
> Civics don't retrac or do so lazily, (like me), so I'm gonna try for a
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>
> JT

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Before booking an appointment, try the fix prescribed in the owner's
manual: Clean the top loop with mild soapy water to remove the GRUNGE
that accumulates where the belt goes back and forth.

'Curly'

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Grumpy AuContraire - 22 Oct 2007 01:10 GMT

>> I'm gonna take this at face value... The belts in both, the '82 & '83
>> Civics don't retrac or do so lazily, (like me), so I'm gonna try for a
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>
> 'Curly'

I'll give that a try Curly... Free is better'n cheap!

<G>

JT

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