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osorios007@yahoo.com - 25 Nov 2007 23:24 GMT
today has been my day????
I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I pull to the
pump and start pumping the wrong liquid((DIESEL))))
Thanks the lord i only pump 2 gallons onlyI stopped imediately call
aaa and got my car towed to my house.
My car is a 2007 CVR honda. Its late now but I hope somebody lthat
knows will be able to advice me today  what to do?
I do not want to take it to the dealerIf I can helped.
even if I have to get a mechanic.
Does anybody knows if this type of car Gas tank can be empty by the
bottom or tank must be take down?

Help!!!!!!!!

Jim Osorio
osorios007@yahoo.com
loewent - 26 Nov 2007 04:40 GMT
my civic has a drain bolt... most honda's have this.

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>today has been my day????
>I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I pull to the
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>Jim Osorio
>osorios007@yahoo.com
motsco_ - 26 Nov 2007 05:30 GMT
> today has been my day????
> I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I pull to the
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> Jim Osorio
> osorios007@yahoo.com
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_If_ there is no drain bolt, you can always siphon it out with a plastic
hose. If you want to know whether there's a drain plug,
www.slhondaparts.com has your parts diagrams, or get down on your knees
and look.

How much does your tank hold, anyway? After you drain the contamination,
you should probably fill it FULL with your usual fuel and all will be OK.

I don't know much about diesel.

'Curly'
Tegger - 26 Nov 2007 14:03 GMT
osorios007@yahoo.com wrote in news:8cfe7987-dbc6-438f-b728-
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> today has been my day????
> I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I pull to the
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> Does anybody knows if this type of car Gas tank can be empty by the
> bottom or tank must be take down?

Relax. There will be no damage.

If you only put two gallons of diesel in, then there's no harm done. Just
fill up the rest of the way with regular gas and you're fine.

Your gas tank holds 15.3 US gallons. That means the diesel content of your
tank will be only 13% with the tank otherwise completely filled with
regular gas.

It helps a lot in this case that your tank was as low as it was, as the
action of filling with regular gas will thoroughly mix in the diesel.

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Paul - 26 Nov 2007 14:12 GMT
> today has been my day????
> I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I pull to the
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> Jim Osorio
> osorios007@yahoo.com

Aren't diesel nozzles usually larger in diameter than gas nozzles, so as to
prevent just such a thing from happening?
Dana - 02 Dec 2007 04:06 GMT
>> today has been my day????
>> I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I pull to the
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> Aren't diesel nozzles usually larger in diameter than gas nozzles, so as
> to prevent just such a thing from happening?

No they certainly aren't larger . They're usually green in color though .
Elle - 26 Nov 2007 15:56 GMT
Backing up what Curly ("Motsco") said, see
http://www.carinsurance.com/kb/content24541.aspx , among
other sites. Google with words like {diesel gasoline mistake
siphon}.

In summary, drain tank as much as possible, refill with
unleaded gasoline, and be prepared for a bit of rough
running. Do as soon as possible, or there is some risk of
damage.

Trying to run a diesel engine on gasoline is a far bigger
mistake.

> today has been my day????
> I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I
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> Jim Osorio
> osorios007@yahoo.com
bi241@scn.org - 28 Nov 2007 07:56 GMT
If you run your diesel engine on a mixture of gas and diesel then it's
a big problem. But in this case, no need to worry. Just fill her up
with gasoline and she'll be OK. Aslo, i would recommend adding 0.5 oz
of acetone per gallon of fuel to your gas tank as a quick and
effective fix. Acetone will help eliminate the soot and smoke, boots
the evaporation characteristics of the mixture, and prevents
detonation.

On Nov 25, 6:24 pm, osorios...@yahoo.com wrote:
> today has been my day????
> I had about one to two gallons of fuel left on my tank I pull to the
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> Jim Osorio
> osorios...@yahoo.com
Tegger - 28 Nov 2007 12:34 GMT
bi241@scn.org wrote in news:99a0140d-161f-49ae-9399-
c938271afa0c@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

> Aslo, i would recommend adding 0.5 oz
> of acetone per gallon of fuel to your gas tank

That would be stupid.

Acetone is a solvent that destroys plastics. You have lots of plastic in
your fuel system.

Do not use any amount of acetone in your fuel system.

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bi241@scn.org - 29 Nov 2007 07:39 GMT
> Acetone is a solvent that destroys plastics. You have lots of plastic in
> your fuel system.

plastic parts in the fuel sytem of a 2007 honda CR-V? what kind of
horse sh.t is it? name one! i dare ya..
Tegger - 29 Nov 2007 17:39 GMT
bi241@scn.org wrote in news:8963a3f9-b65b-4aa4-8915-5839c02193a0
@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

>> Acetone is a solvent that destroys plastics. You have lots of plastic in
>> your fuel system.
>
> plastic parts in the fuel sytem of a 2007 honda CR-V? what kind of
> horse sh.t is it? name one! i dare ya..

Perhaps I should have said "polymeric" rather than "plastic". That would
have covered those plastics that feel "rubbery" as well as those that feel
"plasticky".

You have copious amounts of polymers in your fuel system. A great many
gaskets, diaphragms and O-rings, for a start. Plus much of the EVAP system
is plastic. Your fuel filler neck is surely at least partially plastic, as
is the seal on the gas cap.

Those polymers are also the reason most cars can't use gasolines with more
than 10% ethanol in them. Excessive ethanol will have a similar effect to
acetone.

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Tegger - 29 Nov 2007 17:43 GMT
> bi241@scn.org wrote in news:8963a3f9-b65b-4aa4-8915-5839c02193a0
> @e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
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> more than 10% ethanol in them. Excessive ethanol will have a similar
> effect to acetone.

And you don't have to take my word for it, either.

See here:
http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2006/January/08.html

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bi241@scn.org - 07 Dec 2007 06:32 GMT
gasoline is a solvent itself!!! the bad thing about ethanol and
acetone in gas is the low viscosities which will cause damage to the
fuel pumps.

i've heard about boosting gas mileage with acetone, but hate the
inconvenience of stocking acetone all the time. i add acetone to my
gas tank once a year, however, 8 oz per a full tank, before bringing
it to a smog check, my Accord runs on a gutted catalytic converter.

> > Perhaps I should have said "polymeric" rather than "plastic". That
> > would have covered those plastics that feel "rubbery" as well as those
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Tegger - 07 Dec 2007 13:14 GMT
> gasoline is a solvent itself!!!

Gasoline is a solvent, yes. A solvent which the fuel system is
/specifically designed for/. The fuel system is /not/ designed for acetone.

And have you ever noticed how gas can go in plastic containers, but acetone
is stored in /metal/ containers? Ever wondered why?

> the bad thing about ethanol and
> acetone in gas is the low viscosities which will cause damage to the
> fuel pumps.

Holy mackerel. Where on earth did you get that one from?

Ethanol has over TWICE the viscosity of gasoline. Look it up.

You are grossly misleading readers of this group with your astonishing
ignorance.

Acetone is damaging to your car's fuel system's polymers. Do not use
acetone in your car's fuel system. Period.

<snip>

> my Accord runs on a gutted catalytic converter.

You're passing smog with a gutted cat? Yeah, right.

Either you're making this stuff up out of whole cloth or your jurisdiction
has /exceedingly/ lax emissions regulations. You're probably outputting
3% to 4% CO at idle, which nobody in North America allows, to my knowledge.

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Elle - 07 Dec 2007 16:22 GMT
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote i
Someone wrote
>> gasoline is a solvent itself!!!
>
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> containers, but acetone
> is stored in /metal/ containers? Ever wondered why?

The typical nail polish remover is acetone. It's sold in
some kind of plastic bottle. Definitely not metal.

>> the bad thing about ethanol and
>> acetone in gas is the low viscosities which will cause
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> astonishing
> ignorance.

Maybe the guy just made an honest mistake. I realize you
never make honest mistakes, but...

;-)
Tegger - 07 Dec 2007 18:59 GMT
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote i
> Someone wrote
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> The typical nail polish remover is acetone. It's sold in
> some kind of plastic bottle. Definitely not metal.

That's true. The typical nail-polish remover appears to be between 60%
and 70% acetone according to various MSDS's I just looked at. And I have
in front of me right now a jar of my wife's Wal-Mart "Equate" remover,
the kind that is impregnated in a sponge. The container is HDPE, which
acetone doesn't harm.

Now that I'm digging deeper, it appears the primary reason pure acetone
is usually in metal containers is acetone's volatility. Plastic
containers are not 100% gas-tight, so there would be a greater rate of
evaporation of the acetone over time compared to metal containers.

Still, the sort of containers nail polish removers are packed in are
/meant/ to be used with acetone. Car fuel systems and their polymers are
/not/ meant to be used with acetone. Car fuel systems and their polymers
are chosen for use with gasoline, ethanol and the various additives.

>>> the bad thing about ethanol and
>>> acetone in gas is the low viscosities which will cause
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>
> ;-)

Nah, I just make dishonest mistakes.

I'd let up, but this guy has been back several times peddling his
misinformation. You'd think that, this deep into it, he would have made
sure he wasn't making more mistakes and outlandish claims, but he
hasn't.

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bi241@scn.org - 07 Dec 2007 20:12 GMT
If somebody comes on one this board and claim he's a defender of
truth, then i'd say i am God!

Have you ever noticed that pure acetone comes in a 16 oz plastic
bottle at CVS?

> > "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote i
> > Someone wrote
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Mike Smith - 02 Jan 2008 22:22 GMT
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote i
> Someone wrote
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> The typical nail polish remover is acetone. It's sold in
> some kind of plastic bottle. Definitely not metal.

Glass, I believe.
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Mike S
 
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