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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 2007I love my new 2008 Accord EX-L!
Hi, I went to yahoo auto and was reading some posts about people intersted in the accord and was surprised to find so many with negative things to say about the new 2008 accord. I saw some saying that the styling was old and not attractive (even though it looks like a new BMW 535i, Cadillac CTS and Acura RL combined), then I saw a woman who said that she heard accord had been known for transmission problems...news to me. This is my 3rd accord and havent had any transmission problems yet. She said in the post that she went and bought a 2008 Malibu instead...well actually that car has more transmission problems than accord among other things. Then I saw someone who said they were unhappy about the way the car drives...mine drives great. And all for a reasonable price. Well guess what, they're all wrong. Anyway, I just wanted to say that in case anyone is interested in a 2008 Accord EX-L, to go for it. Its an excellent car, comfort, driving and styling. I have the leather seats and they are very comfortable and supportive. Al > then I saw a woman who said that she heard accord had > been known for transmission problems...news to me. This is my 3rd accord and > havent had any transmission problems yet. If you didn't have a V6/auto trans model built between 1998 and 2004, then you wouldn't have been in the middle of the transmission fiasco. >> then I saw a woman who said that she heard accord had >> been known for transmission problems...news to me. This is my 3rd accord [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If you didn't have a V6/auto trans model built between 1998 and 2004, > then you wouldn't have been in the middle of the transmission fiasco. I actually did have a 1999 Honda Accord EX-V6 Auto, and there were no transmission problems in the 45k miles that I put on it AND I drove the car pretty hard at that. The only thing that went was the Brake shift switch which had to be replaced two times which was under warranty. It was a minor inconvienience because I had to use the shift unlock in the slot by the shifter to get it out of park, but that wasn't really anything. My 2008 Accord EX-L Auto has an interesting kind of transmission. Its almost like a standard in alot of ways. It downshifts faster than most automatics. When you are in the city and take your foot off the gas you can feel it slow down more like a manual. I kind of like it, because it seems to give better braking and control. Al >>> then I saw a woman who said that she heard accord had >>> been known for transmission problems...news to me. This is my 3rd accord [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > a minor inconvienience because I had to use the shift unlock in the slot > by the shifter to get it out of park, but that wasn't really anything. My '01 with 195,000 miles tranny is still going strong. > My '01 with 195,000 miles tranny is still going strong. !!!! Awesome...mine ( who now resides with my buddy who bought in in 2001 ) has +170,000 and is still kicking. Peace, Polfus Consumer Reports has a quick review this month of the new Accord and liked it. A more thorough review will be coming up. There is hope for the Malibu. GM does seem to be making progress. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Al > I saw some saying that the styling was old and not attractive (even though it looks like a new BMW 535i, Cadillac CTS and > Acura RL combined) This is a positive?? Glad you like the car! Dan D '07 Ody EX Central NJ USA >> I saw some saying that the styling was old and not attractive (even >> though it looks like a new BMW 535i, Cadillac CTS and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Glad you like the car! Well, yes. The front of the car seems to have a CTS and RL look, the side and interior are close to the BMW 535i and the back looks a little like the BMW with a hint of Jaguar XJS. I don't know too much about the CTS (although they are popular), but the RL and 535i are great cars. Still similar looks or not I like the car alot. The car is very quiet in city traffic if you are driving slow and listening to some classical piano on the xm radio, but still have a throaty sporty sound if you open up the throttle and the revs are up to 4500 rpms or so. All of a sudden it starts to sound a little like a Lamborghini and you say to yourself, is this my car doing that? I like it though. >>> I saw some saying that the styling was old and not attractive (even >>> though it looks like a new BMW 535i, Cadillac CTS and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Well, yes. The front of the car seems to have a CTS The grill..yess..and some of the '08 Mercedes C300 front end I think as well. > and RL look, YES! With a touch of ES350 for the hood roundness... > the side and interior are close to the BMW 535i I think more of the '07 335i, IMHo...but yes... > and the back looks a little like the BMW with a hint of Jaguar XJS. Interesting...the back still reminds me of an Acura for some reason... >I don't know too much about the CTS (although they are popular), but the RL >and 535i are great cars. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to sound a little like a Lamborghini and you say to yourself, is this my > car doing that? I like it though. I agree...when mine first hit that area ( I took it easy the first 600 miles like the manual said ), I was like WOAH! Thing roared like a little F1 engine..what a great tone....had some good throat to it, for sure. Car moved on out, too. Peace, Polfus > I agree...when mine first hit that area ( I took it easy the first 600 > miles > like the manual said ), I was like WOAH! > > Thing roared like a little F1 engine..what a great tone....had some good > throat to it, for sure. Car moved on out, too. Yes, I did 200 mi with easy braking and the remaining 400 to make a total of 600 mi with low revs (none over 4000 rpms) and no fast starts, long drives or towing etc. Just as the manual said. I was showing my friend the performance and he was impressed. We were driving south on I-95 middle lane and going about 60 mph with the tach at about 2000 rpms. Then I said "watch this" and pressed the gas firmly. The tach jumped to 5000 rpms with a throaty roar and all of a sudden all the traffic was going past me in a rear direction. I looked down and before I knew I was going 80 mph! The good news is there were no cops around! I have to say the car had excelent stability and confidence. When your driving into Providence the highway is hilly and curvy and the lanes are narrow and this car give you incredible comfort and confidence when driving. Al snip > When your driving into > Providence the highway is hilly and curvy and the lanes are narrow and this > car give you incredible comfort and confidence when driving. > > Al Al, If you think the car is good now wait 'till you replace the OEM tires with something better... www.tirerack.com > If you think the car is good now wait 'till you replace the OEM tires > with something better... > www.tirerack.com I'll keep that in mind, but hopefully I won't have to if I don't wear out the tires in 3 years. What would be considered better for that car? Mine are 225/50VR/17 all seasons Michellin MX4. I just had a chance to drive the 2008 Accord in a slight amount of snow today. We got about 1/2" and the side roads were slick and coated. The car didnt spin the wheels or slide on turns or with braking so thats a good sign so far. If I was driving my 99, or 05 accord it would have been a different story so I am thinking that the traction control kicked in since the VSA didnt light up on the dash board. Al > snip >> When your driving into [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > with something better... > www.tirerack.com Those specific tires he has on the '08 Accord are nice and all season. What would you recommend? He's got Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, VR rated. And to change all 4 tires is $600 minimum. Peace, Polfus On Dec 8, 12:16 am, "Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote: > > If you think the car is good now wait 'till you replace the OEM tires > > with something better... > >www.tirerack.com > > Those specific tires he has on the '08 Accord are nice define nice > and all season. What > would you recommend? > > He's got Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, VR rated. These tires are #16 out of 17 Grand Touring All Season; http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS ANYTHING ELSE would be a better choice (other than #17 of course). A step up to high performance or ultra high performance all season wouldn't be a bad idea. Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position tires seem a good choice for a sporty ride without having to deal with a different set of tires for light snow. But there are LOTS of choices better than the OEM junk. And you don't need to waste your money on "V" rated (149 mph) tires. "H" (130 mph) is plenty for an Accord. > And to change all 4 tires is $600 minimum. Don't you pay that much in insurance premiums? Don't you think a set of decent tires is worth as much? How much will it cost to fix the suspension when you slide into a curb? "ACAR" <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote >> He's got Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, VR rated. > > These tires are #16 out of 17 Grand Touring All Season; > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS > ANYTHING ELSE would be a better choice (other than #17 of course). Heh...when you're right, you're right. > A step up to high performance or ultra high performance all season > wouldn't be a bad idea. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > of decent tires is worth as much? How much will it cost to fix the > suspension when you slide into a curb? Well, hell...I agree. Great..now I've gotta shop for tires. Peace, Polfus >> He's got Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, VR rated. > These tires are #16 out of 17 Grand Touring All Season; > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS > ANYTHING ELSE would be a better choice (other than #17 of course). Those are based on customer reviews. Read this for a more accurate rating of the Michellin HX MXM4: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/TireTestServlet?tireMakeModel=Michelin_Pilot +HX+MXM4_1 In TireRack's test, they rated the Michellin Pilot HX MXM4 **HIGHER** than the Bridgestone Turanza LS-V. And that tire was rated #2 by readers, where the MXM4 was rated #16. But it out-rated the #2 tire on the results you rely on by readers submissions. So if you are going to use TireRack as a source, please use the results THEY achieve, not the one's readers submit. Peace, Polfus On Dec 10, 8:30 pm, "Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote: > >> He's got Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, VR rated. > > These tires are #16 out of 17 Grand Touring All Season; > >http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS > > ANYTHING ELSE would be a better choice (other than #17 of course). > > Those are based on customer reviews. Yup, you can read their comments in the survey area. > Read this for a more accurate rating of the Michellin HX MXM4: > > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/TireTestServlet?tireMakeModel=Mic... More accurate under test track conditions on a RWD sports sedan in the hands of experienced drivers. None of the tests attempt to simulate winter conditions. > In TireRack's test, they rated the Michellin Pilot HX MXM4 **HIGHER** than > the Bridgestone Turanza LS-V. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So if you are going to use TireRack as a source, please use the results THEY > achieve, not the one's readers submit. Actually, I read the comments posted about any tire I am considering. While I appreciate the tests the Tire Rack conducts, I keep in mind that they are in the business of selling tires. When user comments say the tire doesn't work in the rain but the test says it does, I'll go with user comments, especially when they number in the 100s. > Peace, > Polfus Peace out. >> >> He's got Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, VR rated. >> > These tires are #16 out of 17 Grand Touring All Season; [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yup, you can read their comments in the survey area. Exactly...and what a wide variety of comments they are! >> Read this for a more accurate rating of the Michellin HX MXM4: >> >> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/TireTestServlet?tireMakeModel=Mic... > > More accurate under test track conditions on a RWD sports sedan in the > hands of experienced drivers. And thats a negative in your eyes? What about the readers that review the tire, affect its "rating", and yet drive everything but a Honda Accord? How do you know that many of those submissions are from drivers that can't drive at all? How about from insane speedfreaks that are upset it doesn't have the same performance as a summer tire, so they say "it sucks!" or similar? There are a lot of factors that make those "ratings", and you bring up a great point as well about WHAT VEHICLE will the tires be on... > None of the tests attempt to simulate winter conditions. Yeah...thats true. Then again, I don't drive in the snow a whole lot, and when I do I'm careful as hell. So...when I am worried about it, I've always gone for the tire chains. I don't think its smart for anyone to use any kind of tire in the snow...every damn one of 'em can loose traction, depending on conditions. You *know* that's true, ACAR. >> In TireRack's test, they rated the Michellin Pilot HX MXM4 **HIGHER** >> than [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > While I appreciate the tests the Tire Rack conducts, I keep in mind > that they are in the business of selling tires. Well....for example, they rated a cheaper tire higher than a more expensive tire ( the Goodyear RS-A vs the Michellin Pilot HX MXM4 ) in that test. So that theory may be invalid sometimes :) > When user comments say the tire doesn't work in the rain but the test says > it does, I'll go > with user comments, especially when they number in the 100s. Cool....not trying to tell you what to do. Just recommending that the reader's submissions be scrutinized closer for their real potential benefit. For example..I have driven my 2008 Accord EX in the light snow and wet rain already here in NY on *busy, dangerous* freeways and have been "spirited" in my driving as well. The tires stick like they are on rails, and I have noticed no slipping, loss of traction, soft feel, or mushy response. They have a little road noise I can tell, but I think they have great road handling characteristics. I am NOT saying they are the best tire on the planet....but I AM saying that I don't think its necessary to rip them off a brand new vehicle based on reports from young kids that drive at Mach2 in the rain on an offramp and get upset that they slip or can't handle 6" of snow. Peace, Polfus On 12/11/07 10:33 AM, in article 475ebbf8$0$28819$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, >>>>> He's got Michelin Pilot HX MXM4, VR rated. >>>> These tires are #16 out of 17 Grand Touring All Season; [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > Peace, > Polfus I will add one additional observation to the discussion. When you look at the user ratings on tirerack.com, pay particular attention to the number of miles on the tires. A lot of them are initial impressions of new tires with lots of tread vs. the old bald things they just took off. If you filter it down to just look at the user comments that reflect significant experience, different answers almost always emerge. > I will add one additional observation to the discussion. When you look at > the user ratings on tirerack.com, pay particular attention to the number [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > experience, > different answers almost always emerge. Excellent point. Peace, Polfus On Dec 11, 11:33 am, "Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote: snip > >> Read this for a more accurate rating of the Michellin HX MXM4: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And thats a negative in your eyes? It is not representative of real-world conditions, nor of a mid-sized FWD sedan. > What about the readers that review the tire, affect its "rating", and yet > drive everything but a Honda Accord? I lump all the mid-sized FWD sedans together when reading the reviews. > How do you know that many of those submissions are from drivers that can't > drive at all? And these folks would post comments to The Tire Rack? How about from insane speedfreaks that are upset it doesn't > have the same performance as a summer tire, so they say "it sucks!" or > similar? These comments are usually obvious. There are a lot of factors that make those "ratings", and you bring > up a great point as well about WHAT VEHICLE will the tires be on... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So...when I am worried about it, I've always gone for the tire chains. Really? I haven't used chains since I left Colorado. > I don't think its smart for anyone to use any kind of tire in the > snow...every damn one of 'em can loose traction, depending on conditions. > > You *know* that's true, ACAR. I know some all season tires will work better than other all season tires in the winter and the VAST majority of drivers will buy a single set of tires to use year 'round. And they wouldn't know what to do with a set of chains even if they had them. > Well....for example, they rated a cheaper tire higher than a more expensive > tire ( the Goodyear RS-A vs the Michellin Pilot HX MXM4 ) in that test. > > So that theory may be invalid sometimes :) Sometimes. The high performance RS-A is The Tire Rack's comparison standard. > > When user comments say the tire doesn't work in the rain but the test says > > it does, I'll go > > with user comments, especially when they number in the 100s. > > Cool....not trying to tell you what to do. Sure you are. > The tires stick like they are on rails, and I have > noticed no slipping, loss of traction, soft feel, or mushy response. They > have a little road noise I can tell, but I think they have great road > handling characteristics. You are obviously happy with the tires. Great. On the other hand, if you've never had your tires slip, you are not really a "spirited" driver. > I am NOT saying they are the best tire on the planet....but I AM saying that > I don't think its necessary to rip them off a brand new vehicle based on > reports from young kids that drive at Mach2 in the rain on an offramp and > get upset that they slip or can't handle 6" of snow. There are nearly 900 comments posted for the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 and about 27 Million miles accumulated by reviewers. Consider the possibility that this sampling includes more than just the idiots you suppose it does. Keep us posted on how well the tires do as they wear. > It is not representative of real-world conditions, nor of a mid-sized > FWD sedan. I hear you. I for one appreciate the data for what it does tell me. > I lump all the mid-sized FWD sedans together when reading the reviews. Okay. I don't do that, but I hear you. > And these folks would post comments to The Tire Rack? Dude...that wasn't a literal statement. > These comments are usually obvious. yet they affect the "rating" and that's a fact. > Really? I haven't used chains since I left Colorado. ! > Sometimes. The high performance RS-A is The Tire Rack's comparison > standard. Which they rated lower than the Pilot HX MXM4. > Sure you are. .... > You are obviously happy with the tires. Great. You missed the whole point of this conversation, man... > On the other hand, if you've never had your tires slip, you are not > really a "spirited" driver. Thats not an absolute statement, thats for sure. > There are nearly 900 comments posted for the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 > and about 27 Million miles accumulated by reviewers. Consider the > possibility that this sampling includes more than just the idiots you > suppose it does. I have. The problem is that the affected ratings don't differentiate between the two. > Keep us posted on how well the tires do as they wear. I expect them to last only 30,000 or so anyway....and Im sure I will be using something different when I get my next set. I prefer Goodyears tires, fwiw. Peace, Polfus On Dec 11, 8:20 pm, "Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote: > I expect them to last only 30,000 or so anyway....and Im sure I will be > using something different when I get my next set. There are excellent tire choices for the Accord, most of which have user comments consistent with Tire Rack test results. I strongly suggest you go that route. "ACAR" <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote > On Dec 11, 8:20 pm, "Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > user comments consistent with Tire Rack test results. I strongly > suggest you go that route. I have already gone thru that site a bunch, and see many possibilities. Which ones would you go with, if it were your new 2008 Accord EX sedan? Peace, Polfus On Dec 13, 2:02 pm, "Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote: snip > I have already gone thru that site a bunch, and see many possibilities. > > Which ones would you go with, if it were your new 2008 Accord EX sedan? > > Peace, > Polfus Depends; lots of trade-offs. One set of tires for winter/summer? Lots of snow? How will I drive the Accord - as if it were a sports car or like a family car (that it is)? Manual or automatic trans? What's more important - comfort or performance? Asking me isn't a good idea. I have a sports car in the garage. My Accord would be set up with a bias towards utility, comfort and compliance. I'd probably consider Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S, Bridgestone Turanza LS-H, Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge, Goodyear Assurance TripleTred and Michelin HydroEdge. Price and warranty might end up being my deciding factors. Based on my daughter's 2004 Accord EX, I'd probably start hunting around for comments from folks who replaced shocks before buying tires. > Depends; lots of trade-offs. One set of tires for winter/summer? Lots > of snow? How will I drive the Accord - as if it were a sports car or [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > EX, I'd probably start hunting around for comments from folks who > replaced shocks before buying tires. Thanks for your reply, man. I would consider the Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge out of your choices. Peace, Polfus |
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