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Car Forum / Honda Cars / February 2008TPMS Mystery Solved!
Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue for the TPMS light to come on during cold weather on the Accords. Theres nothing wrong with it, its just more sensitive than maybe some other cars TPMS systems according to the Service Manager at Honda. He said that if the system was really malfunctioning there would be another light for that, but the one I saw was just for the pressure drop. I had a few pounds of air put in the tires, had the car washed and vacuumed and off I went. He also checked everything including nails in the tires etc and everything was okay. I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all live in warmer climates I don't know. | Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the | dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all | live in warmer climates I don't know. When I picked up my car the sales rep mentioned that this might happen... hasn't, but at least I know it might happen. John > | Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the > | dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > When I picked up my car the sales rep mentioned that this might happen... > hasn't, but at least I know it might happen. amazing - a tire pressure monitor that might work. > Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the > dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue > for the TPMS light to come on during cold weather on the Accords. Just like it says in the manual. You DID read the owner's manual, right? The TPMS light comes on when it detects a pressure drop beyond a certain point. At that point you stop and measure the air in your tires, discover that the TPMS is correct, and add air to your tires to the factory specified pressure--and the TPMS light goes out, right? > I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. Maybe everyone else read his owner's manual. >> I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. > > Maybe everyone else read his owner's manual. What...are you actually suggesting that reading an owner's manual will prevent the TPMS light from activating? Because that would pretty much make you an idiot. Polfus Tire pressure changes approx. 1psi for every 10 degs F. That light means the tire pressure IS low! Cold weather or not, when the flat tire light comes on. CHECK THE AIR PRESSURE IN ALL THE TIRES... And, don't forget to check the spare. This mandated safety feature (thank you Ford and Firestone) IS probably more useful than airbags, in that, it has the ability of PREVENTION of a crash. Rather than playing defense after (or during) the fact. > Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the > dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all > live in warmer climates I don't know. > Tire pressure changes approx. 1psi for every 10 degs F. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > This mandated safety feature (thank you Ford and Firestone) hey - it's all ford, not firestone. and it's nothing to do with air pressure. there's absolutely no way a vehicle should roll just because it has a flat - regardless of how it happens. it's a fundamental ford design problem. and they knew it. anyone buying the b.s. about it being a tire problem is both missing the engineering fundamentals and being politically naive. > IS probably > more useful than airbags, in that, it has the ability of PREVENTION of a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all >> live in warmer climates I don't know. > hey - it's all ford, not firestone. and it's nothing to do with air > pressure. there's absolutely no way a vehicle should roll just because > it has a flat - regardless of how it happens. it's a fundamental ford > design problem. and they knew it. anyone buying the b.s. about it > being a tire problem is both missing the engineering fundamentals and > being politically naive. -------------------- Yep. When attacked, always gather the lawyers in a circle . . . . (and find someone else to blame). 'Curly' Firestone will forever be attached to that fiasco, regardless of their innocence. And, any car can be tripped and caused to roll, given the right dynamics. If I recall many of these vehicles involved roll over crashes were also over (or incorrectly) loaded. Who's fault is that? > > Tire pressure changes approx. 1psi for every 10 degs F. > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >> I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all > >> live in warmer climates I don't know. > Firestone will forever be attached to that fiasco, regardless of their > innocence. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Who's fault is that? ford. leaf spring rear, no lateral support like panhard rod, and that RIDICULOUS front suspension where the camber of the front wheel is fixed to the arc of the lower strut radius - that's a killer combination. cheap as hell though. and ford did their "cost of lawsuit vs. cost of manufacture" calculations and decided they'd proceed. since this is a honda forum, you show me a junkyard honda that's rolled. i visit junkyards regularly and have seen literally thousands of crashed hondas over the years. i can count on the fingers of one hand the hondas i've seen that have rolled, and even then, i'll bet that was because they were already in a ditch first. and when it's rolled, the roof doesn't collapse like ford. /that/ is why the exploder is a killer - not only does it roll, the roof collapses and crushes the occupants. ken lay was going to do time for enron? he never killed anyone. ford management? i'd have those a.sholes in the electric chair. >>> Tire pressure changes approx. 1psi for every 10 degs F. >>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>>> I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all >>>> live in warmer climates I don't know. > ford. leaf spring rear, no lateral support like panhard rod, and that > RIDICULOUS front suspension where the camber of the front wheel is fixed > to the arc of the lower strut radius - that's a killer combination. > cheap as hell though. and ford did their "cost of lawsuit vs. cost of > manufacture" calculations and decided they'd proceed. Jim, I've looked about, but can't find a 'definitive' site discussing the Explorer suspension failings. Got a good link? Thanks >> ford. leaf spring rear, no lateral support like panhard rod, and that >> RIDICULOUS front suspension where the camber of the front wheel is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks you'll have to look yourself on that - my comments are my opinion based on physical observation of the design which is as described. front suspension is: x----|| where "x" is the pivot and "||" is the wheel. as the suspension member rotates about x, the camber of the wheel changes dramatically. not only does this cause issues with the amount of contact patch on the road [and therefore traction], it's a stability issue as it's changing the wheel's intersection point with the road. > Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the > dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen yet. But maybe you all > live in warmer climates I don't know. What you had ON was the TPMS light or the "Lower Tire Pressure Indicator" light ?, I am asking because I had today the TPMS, and the user guide says this is a malfunction in the system, please could you confirm, thanks > What you had ON was the TPMS light or the "Lower Tire Pressure > Indicator" light ?, I am asking because I had today the TPMS, and the > user guide says this is a malfunction in the system, please could you > confirm, thanks Yes, my light was the lower pressure light. Sounds like yours was the malfunction light for TPMS if it actually lit up as TPMS on the dash board. Al > Okay, I know it wasnt really a mystery, but I took my 2008 Accord to the > dealer today and found out that apparently it is a common and known issue > for the TPMS light to come on during cold weather on the Accords. "Told you so" :) > Theres nothing wrong with it, its just more sensitive than maybe some > other cars TPMS systems according to the Service Manager at Honda. He said [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > everything was okay. I'm surprised no one else in here had that happen > yet. But maybe you all live in warmer climates I don't know. Peace, Polfus |
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