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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2008

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a repeat of my Prelude timing chain question

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really real - 14 Mar 2008 18:36 GMT
Please excuse this double post which I first put in the other Honda
newsgroup:

I got some good advice here about my '01 Prelude which apparently now
needs a new timing belt because they decay with age, not mileage. I've
gone less than 55,000 km.

I found a mechanic who will do it for a reasonable price, considering
it's a four hour job, but he doesn't want to, thinking it's unnecessary.

Is there a school of thought that says we can ignore the age of a timing
belt? Just what happens to a car if the timing belt breaks?
tww1491 - 14 Mar 2008 23:02 GMT
> Please excuse this double post which I first put in the other Honda
> newsgroup:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Is there a school of thought that says we can ignore the age of a timing
> belt? Just what happens to a car if the timing belt breaks?

Yes.  Those who regret it.  Given that your Prelude is turning around 4200
rpm at 80 the result of a breaking belt ought to be a disaster.  Honda says
7 years or 90k miles for the Prelude.  Of course, you could always risk it
and try for the 90k miles in a few years.
jim beam - 15 Mar 2008 01:53 GMT
> Please excuse this double post which I first put in the other Honda
> newsgroup:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Is there a school of thought that says we can ignore the age of a timing
> belt?

what is your climate where you live?  hot?  cold?  extremes accelerate
decay.

> Just what happens to a car if the timing belt breaks?

many thousands of dollars of engine damage - the valves hit the pistons.
really real - 15 Mar 2008 03:28 GMT
> what is your climate where you live?  hot?  cold?  extremes accelerate
> decay.

I live in a moderate zone - Vancouver BC
jim beam - 15 Mar 2008 15:49 GMT
>> what is your climate where you live?  hot?  cold?  extremes accelerate
>> decay.
>
> I live in a moderate zone - Vancouver BC

well, maybe you can persist a little longer.  as above, extreme climates
are the worst and age will be more of a factor.
JP - 15 Mar 2008 19:34 GMT
> Please excuse this double post which I first put in the other Honda
> newsgroup:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Is there a school of thought that says we can ignore the age of a timing
> belt? Just what happens to a car if the timing belt breaks?

My 1986 Prelude is still on its original timing belt with 22 yrs and 70000
miles.  I plan to change it this spring, since it's more than double the
change interval and I may be pushing my luck.  I have changed the belt on my
1986 Accord twice.  Once at 10 yrs and 125000 miles and again at 22 years
and 225000 miles.  This is in Seattle where the weather is quite similar to
yours.

Statistically, the odds of failure will be very small at even twice the
change interval (time or mileage, but not both).  It's a bit of a gamble,
but you probably have a much better chance of your car being destroyed in an
accident than from a belt failure but you still take it out on the road.
You have to decide on your own comfort level.  If you will be losing sleep
over it, or couldn't live with the possible results of being wrong then you
should change the belt.
Dave L - 16 Mar 2008 04:52 GMT
>> Please excuse this double post which I first put in the other Honda
>> newsgroup:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> sleep over it, or couldn't live with the possible results of being wrong
> then you should change the belt.

An '86 Prelude with 70k?  That's low - but I'd venture to say you're on
borrowed time.  I had an '89 prelude Si - people (including the dealership)
said I should change it at 90k.  It broke a little over 65k at about 3 years
and took the valves (engine) with it.  This was in 2003 - car bought used
and timing belt changed right after I bought it.

-Dave
jim beam - 16 Mar 2008 05:44 GMT
>>> Please excuse this double post which I first put in the other Honda
>>> newsgroup:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> and took the valves (engine) with it.  This was in 2003 - car bought used
> and timing belt changed right after I bought it.

it was probably over-tensioned.  unfortunately, that seems to be a
common mistake.

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