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what type of oil for spring in 2000 Honda Civic?
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Joe - 30 Mar 2008 19:59 GMT I had 10w30 in the car this winter, what type of oil should I put in now for the spring? I've been reading that Honda recommends 5W20, is that correct?
motsco_ - 30 Mar 2008 20:14 GMT > I had 10w30 in the car this winter, what type of oil should I put in > now for the spring? I've been reading that Honda recommends 5W20, is > that correct? ===================
It's printed on the top of the oil filler cap (on the engine), or you can look here:
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/RJAAI001_OMANUAL.asp
Check the coolant in your reservoir while you're under the hood. I'm guessing you haven't done it lately.
'Curly'
Joe - 30 Mar 2008 20:16 GMT > > I had 10w30 in the car this winter, what type of oil should I put in > > now for the spring? I've been reading that Honda recommends 5W20, is [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > 'Curly' also do I need to go with a certified Honda Civic filter or can i go with the Auto zone model?
Tegger - 31 Mar 2008 01:05 GMT Joe <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote in news:f391efe5-05d0-4229-96aa- 7da4aa391dcb@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>> > I had 10w30 in the car this winter, what type of oil should I put in >> > now for the spring? I've been reading that Honda recommends 5W20, is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > also do I need to go with a certified Honda Civic filter or can i go > with the Auto zone model? May I ask...why you are asking these questions?
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Joe - 31 Mar 2008 13:14 GMT > Joe <joe5...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f391efe5-05d0-4229-96aa- > 7da4aa391...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/ I'm asking this question because I'm going to attempt to change my own oil and 2 I did not get a user manual when I bought this car used.
Jim Beam you are hilarious. No really, you should be doing standup. it takes so much creativity to mock someone on a Usenet message board who is honestly looking for help.
Tegger - 31 Mar 2008 15:35 GMT >> May I ask...why you are asking these questions? > > I'm asking this question because I'm going to attempt to change my own > oil and 2 I did not get a user manual when I bought this car used. Fair enough.
See here for your Owner's Manual. https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/RJAAI001_OMANUAL.asp
Your car uses 5W-30 year-round. Do not use 5W-20 or 10W-30.
And if you intend on keeping the car for a very long time, you should only ever use Honda filters. If you're only keeping it for a few years, use whatever filter you want. It's more important that you change the oil frequently than it is what brand of oil and filter you use.
And above all, you MUST tighten the filter and oil drain bolt to the correct torque. Overtighten the drain bolt and you will strip it very easily. Too loose and it will fall out. Buy a beam-type torque wrench for about $20 at AutoZone or other parts place. Honda oil pan drain hole threads are fragile.
If there's an aftermarket filter on there now, make 100% certain the old gasket is removed from the engine before the new filter goes on. The new filter gasket needs a bit of oil on it so it won't bind when you tighten it.
Don't let the car fall on you. That would be gravely injurious, if not fatal.
Read some of these before you start work: <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+change+your+oil&btnG=Google+Search>
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Joe - 31 Mar 2008 16:45 GMT > >> May I ask...why you are asking these questions? > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/ remove old gasket from engine? That doesn't sound like a diy job, do I need to take it in for that?
Tegger - 31 Mar 2008 16:54 GMT > remove old gasket from engine? That doesn't sound like a diy job, do I > need to take it in for that? You'd better read some of the links on that Google page I gave you.
Aftermarket oil filter gaskets sometimes stick to the block and don't come off with the old filter. This means you have to reach up and pick it off with a fingernail. If you forget to check, and end up putting the new filter's gasket on top of the old one, the engine will lose all its oil first time you drive it. Genuine Honda oil filters are not prone to this problem.
Do yourself a big favor that may save your life and/or your wallet: Read the links I posted earlier. This is not the kind of thing you can be spoon- fed.
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Joe - 31 Mar 2008 18:11 GMT > > remove old gasket from engine? That doesn't sound like a diy job, do I > > need to take it in for that? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/ oh ok, I get it, thanks for the info Tegger!
jim beam - 01 Apr 2008 03:28 GMT >> Joe <joe5...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f391efe5-05d0-4229-96aa- >> 7da4aa391...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > takes so much creativity to mock someone on a Usenet message board who > is honestly looking for help. i'm not mocking someone looking for help, i'm mocking someone that can't be bothered to read an owners manual, or can't be bothered to use google and thus wants to WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME.
Joe - 01 Apr 2008 13:52 GMT Yeah like every member of the message group is forced to read every thread. You could have just ignored it but instead you decided to act like every other hackneyed dick in internet history who thinks a Usenet message board is his own personal domicile. I love how I'm accused of wasting time by a guy who chooses the nickname "Jim Beam". I assume you are probably more sensitive to this topic than others because you yourself are probably accused of wasting everyone in your life's time due to your nightly drunken rants.
delbert brecht - 01 Apr 2008 16:41 GMT 4/1/08 8:524/1/08 8:52joe5345@gmail.com
> Yeah like every member of the message group is forced to read every > thread. You could have just ignored it but instead you decided to act [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > because you yourself are probably accused of wasting everyone in your > life's time due to your nightly drunken rants. Now it is time to stop this thread. Tegger answered your question. Jim Beam slapped your hand and you crossed the line. Lets all just let it go.
I think you know now that some residents of this newsgroup prefer people to do a little more homework than you did.
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Joe - 01 Apr 2008 16:57 GMT I don't think I crossed the line. I explained that I did not have a users manual and Jim Beam decided that's not good enough, so I assumed his irrationality had to due with his obvious overindulgence in cheap alcohol favored mostly by those on the lower end of the educational scale.
jim beam - 02 Apr 2008 06:26 GMT > I don't think I crossed the line. I explained that I did not have a > users manual and Jim Beam decided that's not good enough, so I assumed > his irrationality had to due with his obvious overindulgence in cheap > alcohol favored mostly by those on the lower end of the educational > scale. "hey, will you wipe my a.s for me? i can't be bothered to wipe it myself. oh, and will you provide the t.p. as well?"
Joe - 02 Apr 2008 19:09 GMT > > I don't think I crossed the line. I explained that I did not have a > > users manual and Jim Beam decided that's not good enough, so I assumed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "hey, will you wipe my a.s for me? i can't be bothered to wipe it > myself. oh, and will you provide the t.p. as well?" Hey look who just woke up at the crack of noon!
Tegger - 04 Apr 2008 00:21 GMT Joe <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote in news:9ad782d5-9a76-4c13-aed6- 4a51f01d649a@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
>> > I don't think I crossed the line. I explained that I did not have a >> > users manual and Jim Beam decided that's not good enough, so I assumed [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Hey look who just woke up at the crack of noon! I hope you don't intend to come back here for advice in the future. Your attitude is not conducive to attracting the attention of those who can help.
As one ages, one learns that there are times when it's best to just let things slide, y'know?
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Polfus - 04 Apr 2008 00:34 GMT > I hope you don't intend to come back here for advice in the future. Your > attitude is not conducive to attracting the attention of those who can > help. > > As one ages, one learns that there are times when it's best to just let > things slide, y'know? "Jim Beam" is an a.shole.
We both know it, so why the mystery when he offends yet another poster?
All the dude had to say was the answer.
If you f.ckers really want to help folks, then just answer the damn questions and leave the attitudes in the toilet where it belongs.
Now...I *know* you are rational, so read what I said again.
Nothing towards you, Tegger...but be aware that if this is a *HELPUL* newsgroup, then its members should f.cking act like it instead of a forum to practice pseudo-wit and bad sarcasm.
And f.ck "Jim Beam"....especially since ETOH and driving don't mix too well.
What a dumbass "handle"....idiot.
$1000 that he asks how old I am again...because he is stuck in an early developmental stage and 3rd grade is what he relates to, no doubt.
Polfus
Joe - 04 Apr 2008 14:53 GMT > Joe <joe5...@gmail.com> wrote in news:9ad782d5-9a76-4c13-aed6- > 4a51f01d6...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafa That's some threat Tegger. I hope you know that defending an idiot like Jim Beam is only going to alienate more people from using this forum. I'll ask another question here next week and you'll answer it dutifully like the monkey that you are because you, like Jim Beam, have nothing better to do with your time. I'll make sure to let you know that you answered my question too Tegger, since you'll have no idea it was in fact me, so you can understand what an innocuous threat you've just cast.
Tegger - 04 Apr 2008 18:25 GMT >> Joe <joe5...@gmail.com> wrote in news:9ad782d5-9a76-4c13-aed6- >> 4a51f01d6...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > like Jim Beam is only going to alienate more people from using this > forum. I'm not defending anybody.
I'm telling you that you're wasting your breath (or keystrokes).
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Polfus - 04 Apr 2008 18:56 GMT "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> That's some threat Tegger. I hope you know that defending an idiot >> like Jim Beam is only going to alienate more people from using this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'm telling you that you're wasting your breath (or keystrokes). What the hell happened to you, Tegger?
I *thought* you were a nice guy...looks like I was wrong.
Polfus
Seth - 04 Apr 2008 19:39 GMT >>> That's some threat Tegger. I hope you know that defending an idiot >>> like Jim Beam is only going to alienate more people from using this [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I *thought* you were a nice guy...looks like I was wrong. What did Tegger do that wasn't nice other than A) help with the original question and B) offer some friendly advice?
Tegger - 04 Apr 2008 20:58 GMT "Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote in news:47f66c16$0$6520 $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I *thought* you were a nice guy...looks like I was wrong. Let me be phrase this another way: you are making a fool of yourself with your persistence.
I am happy to try help (as I did). I also did ignore the first few arrows aimed at jim beam.
I only responded to the arrows after you ignored the sensible advice given you by Delbert Brecht.
jim beam is jim beam. Insults from you (provoked or not) won't change him, and will just draw insults back.
My point is that you need to move on; forget this fight. Speaking of which... I'm gone from this thread. I shouldn't have got involved in this part of it in the first place.
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Polfus - 04 Apr 2008 21:46 GMT > Let me be phrase this another way: you are making a fool of yourself with > your persistence. Well now see..thats all relative to who's reading the threads.
To the dude that simply asked what kind of oil....it looks like a big sh.t sandwich.
ALL ANYONE HAD TO DO WAS SAY 5W30.
THATS IT.
"5W30".
See how simple that sh.t is...just type 2 letters and two numbers and be done with it.
BUT NO !
Its always got to be some dumb a.s response, as well as you not answering and asking the dude why he was asking the questions in the first place.
Who gives a rats a.s, man?!
Just type "5W30"...and *YOU* let it go.
Since when is it a posters responsibility to let go insults from the woodworks from asswipes like "Jim Beam"?
I GUARANTEE if you or anyone else would just TYPE THE GODDAMN ANSWER instead of the bullshit, then this would be a great newsgroup full of people with no attitudes or grudges or chips on their shoulders.
But it is NOT that newsgroup when fruitcake idiots type bullshit.
What kind of newsgroup do you *really* want this to be?
Just a forum for pricks to lavish info only when they feel proper "kneeling at the throne" is performed?
And who the hell are you to call someone foolish when the dude never said sh.t to you to begin with?
Thats a kick in the nuts, and you don't see it that way obviously.
> I am happy to try help (as I did). I also did ignore the first few arrows > aimed at jim beam. Yeah..and then you defended him, or it sure as hell seemed that way, when you decided to tell the original poster that you hope he never comes back here after he called "Jim Beam" for the insults.
> I only responded to the arrows after you ignored the sensible advice given > you by Delbert Brecht. I didn't ignore a thing, as I never asked you a thing about a 2000 Honda Civic.
> jim beam is jim beam. Insults from you (provoked or not) won't change him, > and will just draw insults back. Point is the hell with the dude, and why the hell you tolerate it is beyond me.
> My point is that you need to move on; forget this fight. Again...wouldn't be none if you loonies would just type the damn answer instead of all the diatribe.
> Speaking of > which... I'm gone from this thread. I shouldn't have got involved in this > part of it in the first place. Exactly.
Peace, Polfus
Tegger - 04 Apr 2008 22:42 GMT >> Let me be phrase this another way: you are making a fool of yourself >> with your persistence. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > BUT NO ! I'm going to break my own decision here and get involved again just this once more.
On Monday the 31st, I said this to you: "Your car uses 5W-30 year-round. Do not use 5W-20 or 10W-30."
Your questions WERE answered.
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Polfus - 05 Apr 2008 01:44 GMT >> See how simple that sh.t is...just type 2 letters and two numbers and >> be done with it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > On Monday the 31st, I said this to you: Not to me, because I didn't ask you a thing.
You do realize this, correct?
> "Your car uses 5W-30 year-round. Do not use 5W-20 or 10W-30." > > Your questions WERE answered. Not before you asked:
"May I ask...why you are asking these questions?"
And not before you concluded with:
"I hope you don't intend to come back here for advice in the future. Your attitude is not conducive to attracting the attention of those who can help."
Polfus
Tegger - 05 Apr 2008 02:24 GMT >>> See how simple that sh.t is...just type 2 letters and two numbers >>> and be done with it. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You do realize this, correct? Apparently not.
There are a number of people who post under different names, those names dependent on which computer they're posting from. At some point this fact led my defective eyes/brain to conflate Joe with Polfus.
My confusion originally arose from this post by Joe: "I'll ask another question here next week and you'll answer it dutifully like the monkey that you are because you, like Jim Beam, have nothing better to do with your time. I'll make sure to let you know that you answered my question too Tegger, since you'll have no idea it was in fact me..."
I replied to that, and the very next post was from Polfus. I figured Joe had morphed into Polfus, so I got fooled into thinking Polfus was actually Joe, nym-shifting in order to entice me into responding.
Evidently I was mistaken.
Plus -- and I should have checked this first -- the traces show that Joe appears to be in the Boston area, whereas you are somewhere near NYC. Different people, it seems now.
Look, I don't want to pick fights with anybody. I'm sorry I confused you two.
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Polfus - 05 Apr 2008 08:36 GMT "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> Apparently not. Well thats okay...we all make mistakes.
> There are a number of people who post under different names, those names > dependent on which computer they're posting from. At some point this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I replied to that, and the very next post was from Polfus. To be fair, he only said that *after* you said:
"I hope you don't intend to come back here for advice in the future. Your attitude is not conducive to attracting the attention of those who can help."
He responded to JiMbEaM, and then you jumped his sh.t.
> I figured Joe > had morphed into Polfus, so I got fooled into thinking Polfus was > actually Joe, nym-shifting in order to entice me into responding. > > Evidently I was mistaken. Again..no worries.
> Plus -- and I should have checked this first -- the traces show that Joe > appears to be in the Boston area, whereas you are somewhere near NYC. > Different people, it seems now. > > Look, I don't want to pick fights with anybody. I'm sorry I confused you > two. Hey I still love you, but f.ck JimBeam and everything he represents.
Peace, Polfus
jim beam - 05 Apr 2008 05:00 GMT >>> See how simple that sh.t is...just type 2 letters and two numbers and >>> be done with it. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Polfus you're being very childish. there may be a reason for it, abuse for instance, but you'll never get treated like an adult if you don't behave like an adult.
technically, it works like this: when two individuals interact, they go through the motions of talking. but on a basic level, there's also an assessment going on of what /type/ of interaction it is. adult to adult works best. but if one is being child-like, the interaction gets off-track because the other person [unless they too are child-like] is likely to be either disinterested or even hostile. [duh]
so now for the bit you don't want to hear: when the "child" acts up and flings their teddy in the corner, they're going to get slapped down by pretty much anyone, particularly strangers. the danger is that the "child" then gets stuck in a negative feedback loop because when they need something, they're not getting it, and so when they get slapped, they act up even more, and get slapped harder. anger and frustration results.
the only way out of this cycle is to step back and try to approach future interactions as an adult. if someone [you] wants help, they may not be able to give help right away, but acting like they will when they have the chance can make up for it. your action so far is to childishly demand attention, then offer nothing in return.
now, with this knowledge, go back and re-read some of your transactions on this group. this is not a put-down. what you'll see is that you've had nothing but trouble getting what you want [and this probably extends to other real-life transactions you have as well], yet most other people here seem to have no problem. that causes anger, frustration, and increasingly bizarre behavior, but unfortunately, this makes the problem of trying to get a result worse, not better. so much so, that here you are, months later, still simmering with resentment at previous failures.
move forward with this new information polfus. see if you can transact as an adult. and, just so you know, when someone asks you how old you are, they don't /really/ want to know your age, what they're saying is that you're being childish and that you need to stop because you ain't getting anywhere.
Polfus - 05 Apr 2008 08:30 GMT "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
> y Oh, shut up with your diatribe...you make me sick.
Polfus
Tony Harding - 07 Apr 2008 16:39 GMT >> y > > Oh, shut up with your diatribe...you make me sick. > > Polfus Happy puking!
Polfus - 04 Apr 2008 20:03 GMT "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
> i'm not mocking someone looking for help, i'm mocking someone that can't > be bothered to read an owners manual, or can't be bothered to use google > and thus wants to WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME. Then leave, bitch.
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Timothy J. Lee - 02 Apr 2008 19:23 GMT >I did not get a user manual when I bought this car used. A tip for the next time you buy a used car: if the owner's manual is missing, consider it a negative point on the car, since a previous owner who lost the owner's manual was probably careless about car maintenance (especially since the owner's manual is the place to look up what maintenance needs to be done when).
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Rick Blaine - 02 Apr 2008 22:57 GMT > In article > <0d6771a1-fd71-43c0-83f0-21ae93f6e8ec@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > maintenance (especially since the owner's manual is the place to look > up what maintenance needs to be done when). I agree with you-- a missing owner's manual in a used car is a negative factor-- possibly reflecting a careless previous owner.
For the last number of years though, many Japanese cars came with both an owner's manual and a separate maintenance schedule/manual. If the latter is missing, I'd really be concerned about how the car was driven and maintained.
Tony Harding - 04 Apr 2008 10:04 GMT >> I did not get a user manual when I bought this car used. > > A tip for the next time you buy a used car: if the owner's manual > is missing, consider it a negative point on the car, The car was probably stolen.
Joe - 04 Apr 2008 14:54 GMT > > In article <0d6771a1-fd71-43c0-83f0-21ae93f6e...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, > >> I did not get a user manual when I bought this car used. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The car was probably stolen. I bought the car from a dealer and the Carfax seems to imply the car was repossessed.
Timothy J. Lee - 12 Apr 2008 00:13 GMT >> > In article ><0d6771a1-fd71-43c0-83f0-21ae93f6e...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I bought the car from a dealer and the Carfax seems to imply the car >was repossessed. Someone who couldn't be bothered to make car payments probably couldn't be bothered to do car maintenance.
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jim beam - 30 Mar 2008 20:15 GMT > I had 10w30 in the car this winter, what type of oil should I put in > now for the spring? I've been reading that Honda recommends 5W20, is > that correct? honda have no idea what they're doing - they just print random crap in the owners manual to keep us guessing. you'd be much better advised to keep up to date with the latest vehicle testing and technology by calling 866-481-6172. hth.
AZ Nomad - 02 Apr 2008 21:58 GMT >I had 10w30 in the car this winter, what type of oil should I put in >now for the spring? I've been reading that Honda recommends 5W20, is >that correct? Where do you live? Ecuador? The Canada's Northern Territories? Believe it or not, it makes a difference.
A good start would be to do a websearch for "automotive oil viscosity recommendation" (without the quotes)
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