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Car Forum / Honda Cars / July 2008

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Honda Odyssey Brake Caliber

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Honda-Man - 27 Jul 2008 11:41 GMT
I have a shimmy in the wheel when pressing on the brake.  So I was all set
to change the front brakes and rotors, but then realized the driver side
front caliber wiggles.  It would seem that there are two bolts into a
sleeve, one on top and one on the bottom that slide in and out when the
break is depressed.  It would appear these have worn out and the caliber
wiggles.  Can I just replace the blot/sleeve?

Thanks
motsco_ - 27 Jul 2008 15:11 GMT
> I have a shimmy in the wheel when pressing on the brake.  So I was all set
> to change the front brakes and rotors, but then realized the driver side
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>
> Thanks
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Your diagrams are at www.slhondaparts.com Those are commonly called the
'slider pins' and you'll have to get the parts from a Honda dealer, or
online if you can wait. How old / what mileage is your Odyssey? More
info at Odyclub.com too.

'Curly'
motsco_ - 27 Jul 2008 15:39 GMT
>> I have a shimmy in the wheel when pressing on the brake.  So I was all
>> set to change the front brakes and rotors, but then realized the
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> 'Curly'

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PS: You know you'll need a handheld torque driver to get the Phillips
head screws out of the rotors, right? Cheap at the Hwun HungLow tool
supplier / Sears.

'Curly'
jim beam - 30 Jul 2008 03:47 GMT
>>> I have a shimmy in the wheel when pressing on the brake.  So I was
>>> all set to change the front brakes and rotors, but then realized the
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>
> PS: You know you'll need a handheld torque driver to get the Phillips

size #3.  very important!

> head screws out of the rotors, right? Cheap at the Hwun HungLow tool
> supplier / Sears.
>
> 'Curly'
jim beam - 28 Jul 2008 01:59 GMT
> I have a shimmy in the wheel when pressing on the brake.  So I was all set
> to change the front brakes and rotors, but then realized the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks

a little bit of "wiggle" in normal in a sliding caliper.  the shimmy is
because the wheel is not seated right [use a little antiseize] and not
torqued right [use a torque wrench in a two or more stage tightening
sequence].  google this group for details.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 28 Jul 2008 05:58 GMT
Caliper wiggles? Before you push the pistons back? Then I suspect the
pistons may be seized and therefore not pressing pads against the
rotor. You said the calipers wiggle so the anchor pins may be fine
unless there is noticeable side-way play. How many miles on these, it
may be time to rebuild the calipers or get rebuilts.

Also, improper wheel lug torque is a primary reason for warped rotors
on Hondas. Sears runs a special on their torque wrenches. Now it's
$59.99 great deal. Or your local Harbor Freight $14 1/2" torque wrench
would work too.

The following is for RV, but would give you the idea on torquing lug
nuts:
www.keystonerv.com/media/pdf/Lug_Nut_Torque.pdf

> I have a shimmy in the wheel when pressing on the brake.  So I was all set
> to change the front brakes and rotors, but then realized the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks
jim beam - 28 Jul 2008 06:22 GMT
> Caliper wiggles? Before you push the pistons back? Then I suspect the
> pistons may be seized and therefore not pressing pads against the
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> Also, improper wheel lug torque is a primary reason for warped rotors
> on Hondas.

indeed.  and most of the time, they're not permanently warped either.
cleanup of the hub/disk/wheel interfaces and a little antiseize usually
takes care of it, even though most shops will skim/replace the disks.  i
have successfully "repaired" a number of instances in this way on my
hondas, most recently last weekend after visiting the tire shop.  air
tools are a terrible thing on a honda wheel.

> Sears runs a special on their torque wrenches. Now it's
> $59.99 great deal. Or your local Harbor Freight $14 1/2" torque wrench
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>>
>> Thanks
Honda-Man - 29 Jul 2008 22:16 GMT
All,

Thank you for the feedback you provided.  The van has 170,000 miles on it.
Only the driver side caliber wiggles.  I will replace the sliders, as I can
see the wiggle at that point. Then I will look to see if there is any
stickiness in the caliber, and lastly torque the lug nuts back on.
Hopefully I will see some improvement.

Thanks,

>I have a shimmy in the wheel when pressing on the brake.  So I was all set
>to change the front brakes and rotors, but then realized the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks
jim beam - 30 Jul 2008 04:03 GMT
> All,
>
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>>
>> Thanks

as johngdole rightly points out, if one caliPer is loose, and the other
ok, the stuck one could be a stuck piston.  you need to check both calipers.

and it's caliPer, not caliber.  the caliber is a p.o.s. dodge.
 
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