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Car Forum / Honda Cars / October 2008Recommendation on place to change timing belt?
Hi, I have a 2003 Honda Accord EXV6. Does anyone have any recommendations on a place to take it for the timing belt/water pump change in Chicagoland area. I called Schaumburg Honda and they quoted $1075! Seems steep, but maybe that's how much this stuff goes for nowadays. I prefer Dealer, but would consider an independant if I see a lot of folks recommending one. Thanks, Shaj > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks, > Shaj Highway robbery!! timing belt, water pump, drive belts, coolant etc should be in the range of $600 to $800 depending on where it's done--and that includes dealers. Get on the phone and call several dealers, you'll be surprised at the variance in prices. MLD >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> Thanks, >> Shaj >Highway robbery!! timing belt, water pump, drive belts, coolant etc should >be in the range of $600 to $800 depending on where it's done--and that >includes dealers. Get on the phone and call several dealers, you'll be >surprised at the variance in prices. >MLD I bet that $1075 includes a pile of other work outside the timing belt and water pump. >>> Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I bet that $1075 includes a pile of other work outside the timing belt and > water pump. And there is a big chanse that a dealer quoting $800 over the phone will find a way to convince you of doing something else and totaling >$1000. I am so glad my 2004 4-cyl does not have a timing belt... :-) >>>> Hi, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> I bet that $1075 includes a pile of other work outside the timing belt and >> water pump. >And there is a big chanse that a dealer quoting $800 over the phone >will find a way to convince you of doing something else and totaling >$1000. >I am so glad my 2004 4-cyl does not have a timing belt... :-) pushrods? I've also heard of timing chains breaking at < 120K miles. It would be nice if the engines didn't self destruct after a belt/chain failure. I once had a pontiac lemans (korean version) that broke a belt and survived without any valve damage. > pushrods? I've also heard of timing chains breaking at < 120K miles. > It would be nice if the engines didn't self destruct after a belt/chain > failure. Toyota has been using timing chains on their 4-cylinder engines for about 10 years now. I haven't heard about any widespread chain failures in those. > I once had a pontiac lemans (korean version) that broke a belt and > survived without any valve damage. Was this an interference engine, or non-interference? Non-interference engines don't experience valve damage if a timing belt (or chain) breaks. >> pushrods? I've also heard of timing chains breaking at < 120K miles. >> It would be nice if the engines didn't self destruct after a belt/chain [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Was this an interference engine, or non-interference? Non-interference > engines don't experience valve damage if a timing belt (or chain) breaks. but they don't develop high power outputs either. if you have a high performance, high compression engine with valve timing that allows you to red line at 7krpm or more, you're going to have an interference engine - it's the price you pay. properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch either. technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are only good for whiners that don't understand, and are happy having their engines' performance degrade faster. >>> pushrods? I've also heard of timing chains breaking at < 120K miles. >>> It would be nice if the engines didn't self destruct after a belt/chain [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > whiners that don't understand, and are happy having their engines' > performance degrade faster. Chains are not foolproof either. Guides can wear and chains can stretch and break, particularly if it is not a duplex arrangement. > properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch either. > technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are only good for > whiners that don't understand, and are happy having their engines' > performance degrade faster. What is the 'proper maintenance' for a timing belt? Dan D '07 Ody EX Central NJ USA >> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch either. >> technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are only good for >> whiners that don't understand, and are happy having their engines' >> performance degrade faster. > > What is the 'proper maintenance' for a timing belt? Replace it every 60k miles... >>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch either. >>> technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are only good [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > Replace it every 60k miles... suggest you double-check that number - a factory civic belt is 105k miles. >>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch either. >>>> technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are only good [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > suggest you double-check that number - a factory civic belt is 105k miles. Whatever...the point is that 'proper maintenance' = 'replacement' >>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch >>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Whatever...the point is that 'proper maintenance' = 'replacement' meaning what? do you think belts should last forever? >>>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch >>>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Whatever...the point is that 'proper maintenance' = 'replacement' >meaning what? do you think belts should last forever? I think if you look back on the thread, you and jim are argueing the same side, other than nitpicking about replacement schedules. It was Dano who asked what "proper maintenance" was, as if you could make a belt last forever by lovingly applying snake oil twice a year. > >>>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch > >>>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. chains are [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > could make a belt last forever by lovingly applying snake oil > twice a year. Hang on a sec - jim beam mentioned 'proper maintenance ' of a belt, I merely asked what that was, as I had never heard of maintaining a timing belt. So, please read threads properly before implying something. I don't see how you get that stupid statement about snake oil out of my simple question, AZ. Personally, I am of the 'replace a timing belt between 60k - 80k miles' school, regardless of the manufacturers recommendation. Dan D '07 Ody EX Central NJ USA >> >>>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch >> >>>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. chains [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > don't see how you get that stupid statement about snake oil out of my > simple question, AZ. the belt replacement schedule is in the service manuals for these vehicles. > Personally, I am of the 'replace a timing belt between 60k - 80k miles' > school, regardless of the manufacturers recommendation. based on what? do you know something the manufacturer doesn't? assuming you're using oem belts of course. > >> >>>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch > >> >>>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. chains [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > based on what? do you know something the manufacturer doesn't? assuming > you're using oem belts of course. Based on personal the experience of having one break early and ruining an engine. But I'd still appreciate you addressing my question regarding 'proper maintenance' - or were you just being sarcastic and you really meant 'maintenance = replacement'? Dan D "http://www.hondaclinic.com/" A good rating from Consumers Checkbook is a key indicator of quality. >>>>> Hi, >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I once had a pontiac lemans (korean version) that broke a belt and > survived without any valve damage. Okay, but you still had a Pontiac LeMans. ;) >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> I once had a pontiac lemans (korean version) that broke a belt and >> survived without any valve damage. >Okay, but you still had a Pontiac LeMans. ;) Please. It's hard enough even admitting to it. It was down on my luck and those were tough times. I took what I could get. At least I didn't own a ford. >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >At least I didn't own a ford. I once owned a Ford. Galaxie 500 with a 427 Y block and a C6. Pretty much dominated my class (I think it was C/SA). Then I started driving real race cars. Things that burned nitro and such. >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > At least I didn't own a ford. Okay, you're off the hook. ;) >>>> Hi, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I am so glad my 2004 4-cyl does not have a timing belt... :-) Same applies if you went in just to have something done like rotating tires. So what's that got to do with the price of a timing belt replacement? Your comment adds a big nothing to the discussion. MLD >>>> Hi, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > will find a way to convince you of doing something else and totaling > >$1000. won't succeed unless you let them. > I am so glad my 2004 4-cyl does not have a timing belt... :-) no you're not. chains stretch, and when that happens, the cam timing drifts. that in turn leads to lower power, poorer emissions, etc. belts are much superior in that respect because they do not stretch. and properly maintained, they never break either. Sounds about right, but gotta be a few years ago? ;) > Highway robbery!! timing belt, water pump, drive belts, coolant etc should > be in the range of $600 to $800 depending on where it's done--and that > includes dealers. Get on the phone and call several dealers, you'll be > surprised at the variance in prices. > MLD |
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