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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 2008

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1997 Accord O2 Sensor

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. . . /\/\ i k e - 21 Nov 2008 15:50 GMT
My CEL came on, and the code says I need to replace my  SH02 sensor . (By
the catalytic converter).

There seem to be a few available on line - some (Bosch's) at about $130, and
other brands near half that price.   Without stating the obvious, what's the
difference?

Thanks...

...Mike

BTW, the car has about 93K miles - I bought it about 1K miles ago.  4 cyl.,
not v-tec, standard transmission
Elle - 21 Nov 2008 16:07 GMT
One has to consider miles and years. The original (assuming
it is the original) lasted 11 years. It paid for itself.

Do not buy Bosch. Their O2 sensors have a reputation for
throwing Honda engine controls out of whack sooner rather
than later. Only buy OEM or from the OEM manufacturer of
Honda's O2 sensors, like Denso.

You can get a Denso direct fit (that is, OEM connector) at
www.densoproducts.com for about $50.  Amazon has similar
prices.

> My CEL came on, and the code says I need to replace my
> SH02 sensor . (By the catalytic converter).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> BTW, the car has about 93K miles - I bought it about 1K
> miles ago.  4 cyl., not v-tec, standard transmission
johngdole@hotmail.com - 22 Nov 2008 06:36 GMT
If it's a 1997 then likely you'll have a Bosch *planar type* oxygen
sensor available. These by design are more resistant to contamination.
You can get them either with OEM plug, or you can get a "universal"
wire if you don't mind the extra work of splicing the old connector
onto the new sensor.

I would not get the Denso sensor. IMO those thimble types are junk.

http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors/PlanarO2.htm

On Nov 21, 7:50 am, ". . . /\\/\\ i k e" <micha...@duke.edu> wrote:
> My CEL came on, and the code says I need to replace my  SH02 sensor . (By
> the catalytic converter).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> BTW, the car has about 93K miles - I bought it about 1K miles ago.  4 cyl.,
> not v-tec, standard transmission
Eternal Searcher - 22 Nov 2008 14:45 GMT
> If it's a 1997 then likely you'll have a Bosch *planar type* oxygen
> sensor available. These by design are more resistant to contamination.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors/PlanarO2.htm

Complete hogwash!!!  Your opinion of Denso being junk is not shared by most.
Elle - 22 Nov 2008 15:13 GMT
> johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> Complete hogwash!!!  Your opinion of Denso being junk is
> not shared by most.

I have been using Denso and only Denso in my 91 Civic for
years. It is on its second one. The first did not fail; I
replaced it pre-emptively at about 150k miles.

Bosch is not thought highly of at all in the archives here
or at www.honda-tech.com.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 23 Nov 2008 19:54 GMT
Actually in a newer Civic the NTK L1H1 wideband pump cell sensors is
used. For those who don't know, it's part of NGK. I do like NGK
products. Denso doesn't have this kind of technology. The better
designed Bosch LSU4 series is a highly regarded alternative for other
wideband applications. Just google.

Now I recognize people's preferences differ. But if the cheap denso
works, why not. But I say go with a Bosch PLANAR type sensor for
i.k.e.'s application.

> I have been using Denso and only Denso in my 91 Civic for
> years. It is on its second one. The first did not fail; I
> replaced it pre-emptively at about 150k miles.
>
> Bosch is not thought highly of at all in the archives here
> or atwww.honda-tech.com.
Eternal Searcher - 23 Nov 2008 20:01 GMT
> Actually in a newer Civic the NTK L1H1 wideband pump cell sensors is
> used. For those who don't know, it's part of NGK. I do like NGK
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> works, why not. But I say go with a Bosch PLANAR type sensor for
> i.k.e.'s application.

It's not a matter of preference, but a matter of common sense.  Again, Bosch
O2 sensors have been proven to NOT work with Honda.  ANY Honda!!!
johngdole@hotmail.com - 22 Nov 2008 06:45 GMT
I don't know which engine, but for the F22B2 4-cyl or F27A4 6-cyl
www.rockauto.com lists the upstream planar (with OEM connector) for
about $71+shipping and downstream planar for $62+shipping. I'm sure
local parts stores aren't that much higher?

Where online did you get $130??

On Nov 21, 7:50 am, ". . . /\\/\\ i k e" <micha...@duke.edu> wrote:
> My CEL came on, and the code says I need to replace my  SH02 sensor . (By
> the catalytic converter).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> BTW, the car has about 93K miles - I bought it about 1K miles ago.  4 cyl.,
> not v-tec, standard transmission
 
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