>> eh? then they must be total freds.
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> define "better handling" for family oriented vehicles.
>>> eh? ?then they must be total freds.
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>maximum lateral G without tiping over, same as anything.
That a really crappy definition. I car that is really really grippy,
but impossible to control will qualify by your definition as having
great handling.
Great handling means remaining in control and being able to precisely
control the car even during agressive maneuvering. The car shouldn't
roll excesively, it should go where you would expect it to,
and it should remain predictable during hard braking or acceleration.
ACAR - 12 Jun 2009 20:37 GMT
> Great handling means remaining in control and being able to precisely
> control the car even during agressive maneuvering. The car shouldn't
> roll excesively, it should go where you would expect it to,
> and it should remain predictable during hard braking or acceleration.
and given the average skill level of your typical family car driver, I
think it's safe to say that in their hands the CRV and Sienna deliver
just about the same level of handling.
fred - 13 Jun 2009 04:19 GMT
>>>> eh? ?then they must be total freds.
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> That a really crappy definition.
Nope. It's the classic race car definition of the term.
> I car that is really really grippy,
???
> but impossible to control will qualify by your definition as having
> great handling.
Impossible to control at high speed and *very* fast turns you mean by
definition. Entirely dependent on the driver.
> Great handling means remaining in control and being able to precisely
> control the car even during agressive maneuvering.
Again control depends of the ability (or lack thereof) of the driver.
> The car shouldn't
> roll excesively, it should go where you would expect it to,
> and it should remain predictable during hard braking or acceleration.
Those are only factors that determine lateral G, hence are redundant.
Acceleration (postive and negative) in the direction of movement are
completely beside the point. Lateral G is commonly measured most accurately
on a skid pad in a constant radius turn while *slowly* gaining speed.