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Car Forum / Honda Cars / July 2009Honda Insight a Flop?
Bloomberg reports that Honda has dialed-back its US sales predictions for the Insight hybrid by a third. "First-year Sales of Honda's gasoline-electric Insight, which debuted at U.S. dealerships in late March, may be between 50,000 and 60,000 units, John Mendel, the company's U.S. executive vice president, said in a June 11 interview at Honda's U.S. headquarters in [...] Read More: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/honda-insight-a-flop/ ----------------------------------- Honda NewsHub: Latest auto news sourced from websites, portals and blogs http://www.carshops247.co.uk/news/Honda.html The auto market is poor so demand in general is muted. Hybrid sales are best when gas prices are high so with lo gas prices demand for hybrids is not as high as it could be. The reason for the lower gas prices is the poor outlook for the immediate economy. On Jun 19, 2:13 am, sjmmail2000-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > Bloomberg reports that Honda has dialed-back its US sales predictions for the Insight hybrid by a third. "First-year Sales of Honda's gasoline-electric Insight, which debuted at U.S. dealerships in late March, may be between 50,000 and 60,000 units, John Mendel, the company's U.S. executive vice president, said in a June 11 interview at Honda's U.S. headquarters in [...] > Read More:http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/honda-insight-a-flop/ > > ----------------------------------- > Honda NewsHub: Latest auto news sourced from websites, portals and blogshttp://www.carshops247.co.uk/news/Honda.html Doesn't qualify as a SULEV... > The auto market is poor so demand in general is muted. > Hybrid sales are best when gas prices are high so with lo gas prices [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Bloomberg reports that Honda has dialed-back its US sales predictions for the Insight hybrid by a third. "First-year Sales of Honda's gasoline-electric Insight, which debuted at U.S. dealerships in late March, may be between 50,000 and 60,000 units, John Mendel, the company's U.S. executive vice president, said in a June 11 interview at Honda's U.S. headquarters in [...] >> Read More:http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/honda-insight-a-flop/ Folks are waiting for either Honda or Toyota to release a version with lithium ion batteries. I'm hoping next years Prius will finally deliver. >Folks are waiting for either Honda or Toyota to release a version with >lithium ion batteries. I'm hoping next years Prius will finally >deliver. I can hold my breath for about 6 1/2 minutes. Can you hold your's for longer? Much longer? People are pointing at laptops getting longer lives out of their lithium ion batteries, but most of those also run cooler processors and the power management slows them down. That 3GHz quad you just bought? Probably runs two processors at 1.33 GHz (FSB speed). I'm making more of a bet on plug-in hybrids first.  Signature- dillon I am not invalid "Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out to be a cylon." -Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS" This year's so called third generation Prius was originally expected to deliver with lithium ion batteries. They upgraded every subsystem except the batteries. I think lithium ion batteries are ready to go but some safety issues are lingering. I'm guessing another year of safey testing and tweaking and we will be there. Lithium ion batteries should boost the Prius (and the Insight) into the 70+ MPG range. > This year's so called third generation Prius was originally expected > to deliver with lithium ion batteries. They upgraded every subsystem [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > batteries should boost the Prius (and the Insight) into the 70+ MPG > range. The 3rd gen Prius has a bigger NiMH battery but many were hoping it would have been a Li-Ion battery all the same. Toyota is testing the lithium ion batteries. The challenge is more of a marketing issue. The way Toyota makes the battery last over 15 years is that the battery is never allowed to discharge over 66%. Given those restrictions the EV mode range of a LiIon battery Prius is still pretty limited while the cost is significantly high. It sounds like Toyota has the heat dissipation problem licked but they are not getting any significant performance or energy efficiency increase that would justify the extra cost of LiIon batteries. To get any significant increase in energy efficiency the Prius needs to go on a diet - its too heavy. . >> This year's so called third generation Prius was originally expected >> to deliver with lithium ion batteries. They upgraded every subsystem [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > significant increase in energy efficiency the Prius needs > to go on a diet - its too heavy. A123 phosphorus battery technology? |
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