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Car Forum / Honda Cars / October 2007

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MinnesotaMike - 10 Oct 2007 00:08 GMT
I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
off from a complete stop.  It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine.  Like
I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop.  I had my
mechanic look at it and he could not find anything.  His only thought is
that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do transmissions though.

Any thoughts on what it could be?  Has anyone run into this problem?  I
would hate to think about expensive transmission work.  The car has
about 118,000 miles on it.  Thanks.

Mike
motsco_ - 10 Oct 2007 04:13 GMT
> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
> off from a complete stop.  It's like the car goes over rumble strips. It
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>
> Mike
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Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?

'Curly'
jim beam - 10 Oct 2007 05:37 GMT
>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>> off from a complete stop.  It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
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> 'Curly'

cvt.  according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
clutch or bad transmission fluid.  my money's on the latter.  a few
quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.
M.Paul - 10 Oct 2007 15:33 GMT
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop.  It's like the car goes over rumble strips. It
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> clutch or bad transmission fluid.  my money's on the latter.  a few quarts
> of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

Could be a broken motor mount.
motsco_ - 10 Oct 2007 18:23 GMT
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop.  It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
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> clutch or bad transmission fluid.  my money's on the latter.  a few
> quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

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Yep. You don't want trouble with a CVT. I'd spend the extra and
drain-n-fill it three times, a day or two apart. There's something
special in that Z1 that the CVT needs to have smeared around it's
innards.. Here's a thread about the Honda HR-V which has a similar tranny:
http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=17604

Please check with your dealer which fluid to use.

'Curly'
MinnesotaMike - 11 Oct 2007 02:39 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions and help.  The motor mounts look fine, so I
will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
dealer as soon as possible.  Unfortunately, none in town.  I assume I
can forgo the multiple changes if the dealer does it.  Do you see any
problems using it until I get that changed?

Mike

>>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I
>>>> take off from a complete stop.  It's like the car goes over rumble
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> 'Curly'
motsco_ - 11 Oct 2007 15:43 GMT
> Thanks for the suggestions and help.  The motor mounts look fine, so I
> will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
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>
> Mike

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Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
the insides of the CVT, but the torque converter on a 'normal' tranny
holds about half of the total liquid volume. Since you can never get it
all out, you take it out 1/3rd at a time and do it three times.
Why not sign in and use the SEARCH feature at the link I provided.
You're talking about a life-n-death issue with your vehicle (the
tranny's life).

'Curly'
MinnesotaMike - 12 Oct 2007 02:46 GMT
Thanks Curly.  I will look into that for the next time.  I came to find
out I have to leave town tomorrow.  I was actually able to get the car
in tomorrow morning for the fluid change.  For $65 I figured it was
worth paying them this time.  I'll let you know if it helps.  Thanks
again for your help.

Mike

> Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
> done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
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> 'Curly'
MinnesotaMike - 14 Oct 2007 23:14 GMT
Just got back from my out-of-state trip with the Civic and the
transmission is working as it should.  Thanks for all the help!

Mike

> Thanks Curly.  I will look into that for the next time.  I came to find
> out I have to leave town tomorrow.  I was actually able to get the car
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>
> Mike
motsco_ - 15 Oct 2007 01:39 GMT
> Just got back from my out-of-state trip with the Civic and the
> transmission is working as it should.  Thanks for all the help!
>
> Mike
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Thanks Curly.  I will look into that for the next time.  I came to find
out I have to leave town tomorrow.  I was actually able to get the car
in tomorrow morning for the fluid change.  For $65 I figured it was
worth paying them this time.  I'll let you know if it helps.  Thanks
again for your help.

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Keep in mind that they probably only did _one_ drain-n-fill for that
kind of money. You should do it TWICE more to insure your tranny will
perform well for a long time. You won't 'save money' by trying to save
it on tranny fluid.

They installed about 3.5 quarts, right?

'Curly'
MinnesotaMike - 15 Oct 2007 04:31 GMT
Looks like 4 quarts on the bill.

Mike

> Keep in mind that they probably only did _one_ drain-n-fill for that
> kind of money. You should do it TWICE more to insure your tranny will
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> 'Curly'
 
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