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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 200798 civic starts running rough then CEL
98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. Driving home in some snow tonight, car started running rough, as though on 3 cylinders. CEL started flashing. Code was P0302 at first. My code reader cleared it, then the flashing CEL came back. Read P0300, P0301, P0303, P0304. No other codes. I recently replaced the cap, rotor and sparkplugs (all from dealership). I am using Bosch plug wires (I know, but they have a lifetime warranty apparently), so I replaced the wires with new bosch wires (warranty as mentioned). While changing the wires, I decided to check the condition of the sparkplugs. They all looked fantastic, but I did notice that they were all pretty loose! Not falling out loose, but not tight. Tightened them down, seated the plug wires, and all seems OK now. I also reset the computer as the idle was a little low after completing the work. My question is: Did I solve my problem here, or is this a sporadic problem perhaps with the ingitor? Anyone else out there have this issue before? t > 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > My question is: Did I solve my problem here, or is this a sporadic problem > perhaps with the ingitor? Anyone else out there have this issue before? --------------------------- Somebody peed in your gas tank ? Seriously, you may need to replace or at least back flush your fuel filter and maybe add some methyl hydrate. Was it COLD where you were? Fuel line icing sounds like that too. 'Curly' >> 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > 'Curly' If there is ethanol in the gasoline, there is no need to add fuel line deicer. The ethanol will remove any water in the tank. Instead of adding methanol (grain alcohol, methyl hydrate), I would use iso-propanol-based dry gas. It is better for the fuel lines and other rubber parts and more effective, because it dissolves in gasoline better. Jeff in winnipeg, so it was -14C. Most fuel here is 10% ethanol. As mentioned, the problem seems to have cleared itself. Just wanna make sure its not something else that is sporadic. t >> 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >'Curly' > 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > t There is a known issue with the CR-V for exactly this problem. The CR-V has basically the same engine as the Civic. The CR-V's problem is exhaust valve(s) that have receded into their seats. Check your valve clearances. If possible, also do a cylinder leakdown test to check for burnt valves.  SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >> 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > There is a known issue with the CR-V for exactly this problem. The CR-V has > basically the same engine as the Civic. crv is b-series - most civics are d-series [apart from the si]. > The CR-V's problem is exhaust valve(s) that have receded into their seats. more likely the valve itself is getting hot enough to cup around the seat - that's fairly common on other cars. valve seats on hondas are high quality and in a highly conductive aluminum head - they rarely get hot enough to actually recede. > Check your valve clearances. indeed. > If possible, also do a cylinder leakdown test to check for burnt valves. technically, leakdown is for rings. simple compression is for leaking valves. and if they are, got to take the head off to replace. leakdown works well for valves as well, you only have to listen where the air is leaking (air intake or exhaust system) to detect your problem at TDC. Doesn't tell you what cylinder though. Now that the plugs are tightened up and I got new wires on it, it seems to be running like a top. Thanks for the ideas all! t >>> 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >technically, leakdown is for rings. simple compression is for leaking >valves. and if they are, got to take the head off to replace. >>> 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec. >>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > crv is b-series - most civics are d-series [apart from the si]. Oops. I was thinking of the Integra. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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