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I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain and need a jump start before. I called the dealer to inquire today and was told if it went bad, they would cover for up to 3 years (the new car warranty). They said I could bring it in on Monday to test the battery, but I won't have time. Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What is recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die Hard Gold for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of the better ones. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, -Dave >I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was >clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain and need a jump >start before. I called the dealer to inquire today and was told if it went >bad, they would cover for up to 3 years (the new car warranty). They said >I could bring it in on Monday to test the battery, but I won't have time. Make the time, it's being replaced for you for no charge. > Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What is > recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die Hard Gold > for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of the > better ones. Any ideas or suggestions? Make the time, it's being replaced for you for no charge. >>I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >>miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Make the time, it's being replaced for you for no charge. We just had the battery replaced free by our dealer with only 19,000 miles on our 2006 Accord. The car would start but seemed to turn over slower than usual. The indicator window on it did not show any color in it either. They tested it and I was told it was putting out much lower cranking amps than it should. >>>I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >>>miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > either. They tested it and I was told it was putting out much lower > cranking amps than it should. Yes, I'll make an appointment to the dealer. I just couldn't do it this Monday and hopefully they'll have a day where they have later appointments or a Saturday appointment when they can check this. The Accord always seemed to turn over slightly slower than my previous cars even when it was new. It was nothing major, and even now it's the same. This happens when I let it sit overnight or after work. My only concern is if they say nothing is actually wrong with it and the battery is just getting old at 2-1/2 years old! Thanks, -Dave >>>> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >>>> miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > My only concern is if they say nothing is actually wrong with it and the > battery is just getting old at 2-1/2 years old! you don't say where you live - if it's phoenix, that battery life will not be unusual. >>>>> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost >>>>> 34k miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > you don't say where you live - if it's phoenix, that battery life will not > be unusual. Sorry - I'm in Maryland. -Dave >>>>>> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost >>>>>> 34k miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Sorry - I'm in Maryland. Don't be sorry. It could be worse, like Long Island or Washington, DC. Jeff > -Dave >>>>>>> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost >>>>>>> 34k miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Don't be sorry. It could be worse, like Long Island or Washington, DC. Hey - I'm less than an hour away from D.C..... Fun place to visit though! -Dave > Jeff > >> -Dave <...> > Hey - I'm less than an hour away from D.C..... Fun place to visit though! I taught in Harlem, NYC, for over a year. Now it takes a lot to get me upset. It's been many years since I was to Wash., D.C., but I really enjoyed the museums there. Jeff > -Dave >> Jeff >> >>> -Dave > <...> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I taught in Harlem, NYC, for over a year. Now it takes a lot to get me > upset. I'll bet! I go up to NYC sometimes to visit relatives, but not in Harlem. Never been there but always pictured it as a rough place. Then again I thought the same of the Bronx until I was at a restaurant in a really nice section of the Bronx. Forgot what it was called.. > It's been many years since I was to Wash., D.C., but I really enjoyed the > museums there. They are nice. I've always like the Air and Space Museum and the Natural History Museum. Took my bike down there and rode with friends along the Potomac, Georgetown and into D.C. -Dave > Jeff >> <...> >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > thought the same of the Bronx until I was at a restaurant in a really nice > section of the Bronx. Forgot what it was called.. Harlem is an up and coming community. It is being gentrified. Harlem and parts of the Bronx are the closest communities in NYC to downtown Manhattan that can be redeveloped into better housing. There are some really nice areas of the Bronx. Harlem is turning into a nice shopping district on 125th St., the main east-west road, where the Famous Appollo theater is. A bunch of stores have moved in, including an H&M store (I think a chain of clothing stores) & a Magic Johnson Theater. A Trader Joes is coming, too (there's one in Union Square and one in Brooklyn too). And there are some good schools there (some NYC dept. of ed schools and some are charter schools) and some bad schools. In addition, Columbia University is there and City College (the public college with the most Nobles) is there as well. Sadly, the poor kids there are treated as throw-away kids by the city when it comes to education (the teachers' union doesn't do much to help either). >> It's been many years since I was to Wash., D.C., but I really enjoyed the >> museums there. > > They are nice. I've always like the Air and Space Museum and the Natural > History Museum. Took my bike down there and rode with friends along the > Potomac, Georgetown and into D.C. In my college years, I went there every year or so. Maybe I will try the bike thing sometime. Jeff > -Dave > >> Jeff >>> <...> >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > throw-away kids by the city when it comes to education (the teachers' > union doesn't do much to help either). Yup, you're much more familiar with New York than I! I do enjoy it when I ride up there to visit. I'm normally on Staten Island, Brooklyn or Manhattan. Sometimes in Queens and the Bronx if I'm up there with friends visiting. I wouldn't even begin to start naming stores and their locations there! I think the area I was thinking of is called City Island, in the Bronx. >>> It's been many years since I was to Wash., D.C., but I really enjoyed >>> the museums there. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jeff If you don't live far, it's worth the day trip. More fun if you go with others. -Dave <snip> >>> My only concern is if they say nothing is actually wrong with it and the >>> battery is just getting old at 2-1/2 years old! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sorry - I'm in Maryland. In that case it's all your fault. ;) > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > In that case it's all your fault. ;) Oh, thanks (said with a sarcastic tone)... lol If you are in a hot climate, then 2.5 years is often a common life for a battery. Interstate (and maybe one other manufacturer) is the OEM battery manufacturer for Hondas and is much recommended here. I go with Interstate lately for my 91 Civic. >I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, >with almost 34k miles on it. When I checked the battery [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > sure if they're still the best or one of the better ones. > Any ideas or suggestions? The dealer is replacing it under warranty so why go to any other battery. He should make the time and take it to the dealer.... > If you are in a hot climate, then 2.5 years is often a common life for a > battery. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of the >> better ones. Any ideas or suggestions? Yeah yeah, I'll see what appointments they have this week. Juggling with a work schedule! As I said in a previous post, I'm just afraid the dealer will say the clear eye is normal wear and not do anything. I'll hit the 36k miles before the 36 months for the new car warranty. Thanks, -Dave > The dealer is replacing it under warranty so why go to any other battery. > He should make the time and take it to the dealer.... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> Gold for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of >>> the better ones. Any ideas or suggestions? I'm in Maryland and the batteries I've had in previous cars have always lasted over 2.5 years. Then again, this is my first "new" car. I'll see if I can dig up an old CR mag for car batteries. CR is normally decent although I do take them with a grain of salt. Thanks, -Dave > If you are in a hot climate, then 2.5 years is often a common life for a > battery. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of the >> better ones. Any ideas or suggestions? >I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was >clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain and need a jump >start before. I called the dealer to inquire today and was told if it went >bad, they would cover for up to 3 years (the new car warranty). They said >I could bring it in on Monday to test the battery, but I won't have time. Your dealer should have a very good tester for your battery. It is mandatory for him to have. It is a unit automatically sent to all dealerships and takes about two minutes to do a test on the battery. Ask to see the printout which prints from the tester and is just like a credit card receipt. The test is either good or replace/pass or fail. So there is no "let;s wait and see what happens" scenario. > Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? As others have mentioned it depends on where you live. Extremes in temperature take a toll on a batterys life. >What is recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die >Hard Gold for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of >the better ones. Any ideas or suggestions? > > Thanks, > -Dave The Honda battery is manufactured by Interstate Battery to Honda specifications. The MSRP is $92.94. It has one of the best warranties in the business. It is a 100 month warranty battery. It is replaced at no charge in the first 36 months for free if it fails and is prorated for the balance of the 100 months. That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered for the balance of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty. If you are a customer with the dealer you may have some influence in negotiating a fair price to buy one and gain that 100 month warranty. The incentive to the dealer is that you may give him a few more dollars than he would be paid by Honda for the warranty, which is only about $15 less than MSRP. If you've never been back for any maintenance, don't expect any more than getting the warranty handled. Howard > That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer replaces > your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered for the balance > of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty. WRONG! I apologize. What I wrote is true for most any warranty replaced part EXCEPT batteries. Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited Warranty are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty (100-months). >> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer replaces >> your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered for the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty > (100-months). I wish the original Honda battery was good for 100 months! -Dave >> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer >> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited Warranty > are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty (100-months). Most replacement batteries are total covered for a time (like 3 years) and are prorated after that (so if it fails after say 50 months, you have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8 years. >>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer >>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8 >years. I believe you are mistaken. Batteries are usually prorated within the warantee period. Outside the "50 month" you get squat. >>>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer >>>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I believe you are mistaken. Batteries are usually prorated within the > warantee period. Outside the "50 month" you get squat. I was not mistaken. The warranty for batteries is typically a period where the seller will replace a battery for free (if it is defective) followed by a period where the battery is prorated (perhaps 3 years). After 3 years, to determine the number of months left, subtract the number of months since the battery was sold from the total warranty period (say 100 months). Then divide this by the total warranty period. If it is a 100-month prorated warranty, and you have 50 months left, you will get 50/100 or 50% of the new battery covered. If you have 10 months left, you will get 10/100 or 10% of the new battery covered. If you have 60 months left, you will get 60/100 or 60% covered. So battery replacement is fully covered withing the full replacement period and is prorated after that. Another way to think of it is that a battery with a 100-month prorated warranty that costs $80 is really a $0.80 per month battery. If you keep the car forever, on average, you'll spend about $0.80 per month for the battery. In real life, it doesn't work this way, because you rarely keep a car forever (and, at any rate, the longest you can keep a car is around 100 years, and after that, well, you won't be able to claim the warranty anyway), but in theory, this is how it works out. That is the way the automotive batteries are typically covered. Jeff >>>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer >>>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I believe you are mistaken. Batteries are usually prorated within the > warantee period. Outside the "50 month" you get squat. I believe you are mistaken. A "Limited Lifetime Warranty", at least for Sears Diehard Gold is . The first 36 months is a totally free replacement, followed by prorated coverage, which is based on the percentage of use that you have gotten from the battery. At least that was the warranty when I worked there several years ago. BTW Sears Diehard Gold and Interstate are both manufactured by Johnson Controls to specifications set by the retailer. DaveD >>>>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer >>>>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > DaveD I didn't know Interstate was also manufactured by Johnson Controls. I remember Die Hard was, and they switched to Exide. Quality went down and they went back to Johnson Controls... -Dave ///snipped/// >> I believe you are mistaken. A "Limited Lifetime Warranty", at least for >> Sears Diehard Gold is . The first 36 months is a totally free [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -Dave I believe you are spot on. The last change back to all Johnson Controls products took place after I left Sears. While I was working there, Johnson Controls made all of the DieHard Gold batteries but the DieHard Silver and the bottom line (I dont recall what they were named) were built by Exide. Some of the Exide batteries were good, some were so-so, and some were less than satisfactory, if you know what I mean. DaveD > ///snipped/// >>> I believe you are mistaken. A "Limited Lifetime Warranty", at least for [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > DaveD Yup. If you get a Sears battery, make sure it's Die Hard Gold! -Dave > ///snipped/// >>> I believe you are spot on. The last change back to all Johnson Controls [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Dave There was quite a difference in the warrantees also. An amusing aside... A gentleman came into the store one day with a Sears battery that was in a 1957 Ford that he purchased in 1959 and drove it to Alaska. The car had given up the ghost at some point in time after his arrival in Alaska and the battery had been residing in a Case frontloader/backhoe combination since that time to present (this was in 1997). The battery at long last had failed. It was dead and would not take a charge. He (jokingly) asked if there was still any warranty left on the battery. I checked, knowing full well what the answer would be, but gave him a 10% discount just on general principles.... So they did build some good ones even back then.... DaveD >> ///snipped/// >>>> I believe you are spot on. The last change back to all Johnson Controls [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > DaveD Holy cow! A 38 year old car battery??? It's got to be a record. Would have been a great advertising tool for Sears batteries.. -Dave >>I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >>miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > As others have mentioned it depends on where you live. Extremes in > temperature take a toll on a batterys life. In Maryland, so I get the hot weather along with snow in the winters. Still - seems premature compared to other cars & batteries, including people I know. We'll see! >>What is recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die >>Hard Gold for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Howard I used to take my old car to this dealership all the time. It was much older so it needed more work! However, not much is needed for this car yet. Also often take it to a guy now who is a Honda mechanic but does work on the side. Normally don't like going to a dealer for a battery when I can get it done much cheaper than a dealership. But I know a good working relationship with a dealer is a good thing to have... -Dave > I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k > miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was > clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain and need a jump start > before. I called the dealer to inquire today and was told if it went bad, > they would cover for up to 3 years (the new car warranty). They said I > could bring it in on Monday to test the battery, but I won't have time. I'd go to the dealer and have them test it. If it is really bad (or, the charging system), they'll tell you. Sounds like you have about a month and a half. I bet you can arrange a time before the warranty expires. Jeff > Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What is > recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die Hard Gold [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > -Dave >> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >> miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jeff Appointment made for Saturday morning. Hope they don't tell me everything is fine and it's still within spec... -Dave >> Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What is >> recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die Hard Gold [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Thanks, >> -Dave >> I'd go to the dealer and have them test it. If it is really bad (or, the >> charging system), they'll tell you. Sounds like you have about a month [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> Thanks, >>> -Dave Just got back from the dealer a short while ago. They said the battery is actually fine. It's rated at 410 CCA (cold cranking amps) anb is currently reading 377 CCA. with 12.62V. They gave a printout graph showing where the battery is in relation to needing replacement. Let's say the graph is splint into thirds, so it is reading about 1/3 down. Once it gets to 2/3 down, then it needs replacing. While there, I was looking at the Civics and the new Accords. I actually liked the size of the Civic more and the Accords are just getting too big! Even wish my '05 was closer to the size of previous generation Accords.. So everything still works fine now, and I'll keep chugging along! Thanks to everyone who responded, -Dave >>> I'd go to the dealer and have them test it. If it is really bad (or, the >>> charging system), they'll tell you. Sounds like you have about a month [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Thanks to everyone who responded, > -Dave Well, when it comes times to replace the Accord, and cars keep getting bigger, you'll be wanting the car the size of the Fit, which will by then be the size of the Civic. Of course, there will be a new small car to replace the Fit. However, with the high prices of gas and the CAFE requirements, I am wondering whether or not the size creap will stop, and cars will remain the same size from generation to generation. We'll see (I hope I live long enough, but I don't have any plans of dying soon). Jeff >>>> I'd go to the dealer and have them test it. If it is really bad (or, >>>> the charging system), they'll tell you. Sounds like you have about a [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > be the size of the Civic. Of course, there will be a new small car to > replace the Fit. No doubt. And the gas mileage on the new Accord went down. Just think how much gas and $$ spent on gas can be saved if engines kept the efficient aspects they have now, but reduced the power output! Motor companies are only giving the public (mainly American public) what they want, and now those same people turn around and complain about the price of gas for their 15mpg truck they drive 40 miles a day to/from their office job! -Dave (stepping down from the soapbox) > However, with the high prices of gas and the CAFE requirements, I am > wondering whether or not the size creap will stop, and cars will remain [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jeff <...> > No doubt. And the gas mileage on the new Accord went down. Don't forget, the methodology for determining the estimated gas mileage also changed. Jeff <...> > <...> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jeff Yes it has. I just checked Edmunds.com and the '07 Accord is rated at 26mpg/34mpg. Its about what I get on my '05 Accord. The '08 is rated at 22mpg/31mpg. If I gett as low as 22mpg in city driving I'd be concerned, unless I were in NYC! They also upped the gas tank size from 17.1gal to 18.5gal in the '08. -Dave > Just got back from the dealer a short while ago. They said the battery is > actually fine. It's rated at 410 CCA (cold cranking amps) anb is [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks to everyone who responded, > -Dave Cool the battery is okay. About the Accord's new size....I am happy as hell with it, and think it drives and feels superb. I am glad its a little bigger, especially when driving on not so pristine road conditions...handles bumps and potholes the best of any Accord I have ever driven, starting with the models in the 80s to my own 1990 Accord EX Coupe to all the 19945 models to the 2007 models. The new Accord is just awesome. I wish I would have gotten a stick shift, even if it does mean more pain in the a.s shifting here in NYC traffic...wonderful new engines on my 2008 Accord EX 4-cyl.. And its not as "big" as a Chevy Impala, for example....so its not *that* big..still feels compact to me...thing that takes getting used to is when I am parking..only then does its larger size become apparent to me...bah....can't have everything says I...so can't have both small size like the 1990-1994 model Accords *AND* make it larger ( to make it ride and handle more like a BMW, for example )....everything's a trade-off. Peace, Polfus >> Just got back from the dealer a short while ago. They said the battery >> is actually fine. It's rated at 410 CCA (cold cranking amps) anb is [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Cool the battery is okay. Yeah, thanks. But he was guessing I should change it before next winter hits. By then my car will be out of warranty. He recommended a Honda battery wich has a 100 month warranty. Ha! I don't care if it's a 20 year warranty, I'd rather not get it from Honda. Not worth being stuck somewhere because of a dead battery, even if it's under warranty. They won't be right there to change it for me when it goes bad! > About the Accord's new size....I am happy as hell with it, and think it > drives and feels superb. I am glad its a little bigger, especially when > driving on not so pristine road conditions...handles bumps and potholes > the best of any Accord I have ever driven, starting with the models in the > 80s to my own 1990 Accord EX Coupe to all the 19945 models to the 2007 > models. True, there are some who do like the larger size. But then they should come out with a new and larger model. Kind of like the size difference from the Acura TSX, TL and RL. Or you could say the older Toyota Camry and Cressida. I'm sure it's better in those examples you named. My preference would have been to keep with the efficiency and more nimble feeling, and make/name a larger vehicle for those who want it. > The new Accord is just awesome. I wish I would have gotten a stick shift, > even if it does mean more pain in the a.s shifting here in NYC > traffic...wonderful new engines on my 2008 Accord EX 4-cyl.. I've driven a stick shift in NYC (whenever I drive up there in my car)! It would get old if I lived there. Places I would probably prefer an automatic are NYC, D.C. and Los Angeles. I heard Atlanta, GA is bad too. > And its not as "big" as a Chevy Impala, for example....so its not *that* > big..still feels compact to me...thing that takes getting used to is when > I am parking..only then does its larger size become apparent to > me...bah....can't have everything says I...so can't have both small size > like the 1990-1994 model Accords *AND* make it larger ( to make it ride > and handle more like a BMW, for example )....everything's a trade-off. Very true! It all depends what you compare it to. Some of the Accord's Japanese competitors are still in the mid-size camp such as the Camry, Altima and Mazda6. Agreed, it is a trade-off.. -Dave > Peace, > Polfus > I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k > miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks, > -Dave I hate to break it to you, but when I purchased my 2007 Accord in February, they had to replace the battery BEFORE I took delivery of the car! Batteries go bad and some will last longer whereas others will die a horrible death way sooner than the warranty. >I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks, > -Dave Be Careful! Had the same trouble with my 98 Accord, which I bought brand new. I saw that the green wasn't showing, so I ran it up to the Honda dealer. Tech looked at it and said ,Aw sh.t, another one! I didn't like that sound...he said the positive post is leaking, and if I try to loosen it. the post will break out, and acid will spill out, into the engine area. They emptied the battery, and sure enough, the post twisted off! They replaced it with a Interstate battery. The original battery was a GM Freedom battery. I Googled ,it and found out that they had trouble with them, at tht time. > I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k > miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks, > -Dave If the replacement is under warranty then why not? Oh by the way, Sears Die Hard aren't good battery, even worse than Duralast. The best i've had for my 89 Accord is an EverStart from Wal-Mart for $35, made by Johnson Control And while you're at the dealer, ask them to check the rear defogger switch/timer, if it's shot and leaves the defogger on all the time, then the next battery would also fail prematurely. >> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k >> miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > i've had for my 89 Accord is an EverStart from Wal-Mart for $35, made > by Johnson Control I thought Die Hard went back to Johnson Control, at least for the Die Hard Gold. Bad when made by Exide for a while. > And while you're at the dealer, ask them to check the rear defogger > switch/timer, if it's shot and leaves the defogger on all the time, > then the next battery would also fail prematurely. My rear defogger works fine. I use it on a semi-normal basis. It comes on when I hit the switch and turns off when I hit it again. Thanks, -Dave > If the replacement is under warranty then why not? Oh by the way, > Sears Die Hard aren't good battery, even worse than Duralast. The best > i've had for my 89 Accord is an EverStart from Wal-Mart for $35, made > by Johnson Control Upon what information do you make such a statement. Also, for your information, DieHard Gold are made by Johnson Control. They have been since the 1980s to date. Recently, within the last 10 years or so, all of Sears DieHard are made by Johnson Control... DaveD > > If the replacement is under warranty then why not? Oh by the way, > > Sears Die Hard aren't good battery, even worse than Duralast. The best [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > DaveD Sears was big in the 70s and 80s, but not any more!! Johnson Controls remains a giant and has gained a good reputation in automotive batteries business. Die Hard?? i call them Die Easy haha.. the brand was introduced in 1967 and from then on were made exclusively by Johnson Controls. But Sears ended its contract with Johnson Controls in May 1994 in favor of Exide and AC Delco, big mistakes!! Anyways, thou shall never trust what thou read here. But do trust what you read on the label on the battery, and trust your judgement. If the battery doesn't have "made by Johnson Controls" on the label then it's probably not. Well, you know what? My EverStart battery has it. Cheers |
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