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Car Forum / Honda Cars / February 20081990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open
1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open No trouble with door in the past. This morning it will not open from inside or outside. Everything feels OK with lock and door handles. But the door doesnt budge. So what do I do to try to fix it myself. Or where do I take it, a body shop ? I don't like the dealer. For this old a car they want to charge an arm and a leg and it isnt worth it. sigh Gene W > 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Gene W Gene, the door has to come apart for it to get fixed. You can figure out how to take it apart yourself or have someone else take it apart for you. You have to figure out where the screws are hidden and get them out. I did this for different cars, and it is a pain in the butt, but not that hard. Jeff > 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > a body shop ? I don't like the dealer. For this old a car they > want to charge an arm and a leg and it isnt worth it. Do you have AAA?  SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > Do you have AAA? Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger door. G >> Do you have AAA? > > Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger > door. > > G Put the car keys on the seat. Lock all your doors and close them. Call AAA. Tell them you locked yourself out and you need them to open the door with their burglar tools. The guy will unlock the door but discover he can't open it. You can then ask him to manipulate the linkage from inside the door and get it open for you. Evidently the door is now broken and you need to fix it, and you can't fix it with the door shut, right? You pay for AAA. Might as well use it. I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few seconds, no more. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>> Do you have AAA? >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few seconds, no > more. Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't work. >> Put the car keys on the seat. Lock all your doors and close them. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your > keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't work. Leave a window open just in case!<g> Most people have two sets of keys, no? He just "doesn't happen to have them available" > Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your > keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't > work. The point is that with the door open, you can now remove the door panel and fix the broken clip. You can't do that with the door stuck shut. The AAA will get your door open for FREE. Beats paying a body shop or dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it with no damage to door or trim. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your >> keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it > with no damage to door or trim. reminds me of the joke about the [insert ethnic group] who locked his keys in his car; It took 2 hours to get his family out. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your >> keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > dealer, no? Plus the AAA guys are so experienced at this they do it with no > damage to door or trim. On my car you can. But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an emergency? By we, I mean the other members of AAA. >>> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have >>> your keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an emergency? By > we, I mean the other members of AAA. So /your/ rates go up if /I/ use the service? I think not. This is not like government regulated insurance. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>>> Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have >>>> your keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > This is not like government regulated insurance. One of the costs of running AAA is paying for the service calls that the tow truck and lock smiths make. If our costs go up, so do the fees. If you have to lie to the operator and the people who come out to open your vehicle, that should tell you you're doing something dishonest. Jeff "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote Jeff >> But why should we pay for this repair when it is not an >> emergency? By >> we, I mean the other members of AAA. > > So /your/ rates go up if /I/ use the service? I think not. Of course they go up. If enough people abuse the "emergency" feature like this, it's going to show up. This problem exists in the U.S. Real problems with insurance fraud exist. But people take advantage of the masses all the time. Welfare and all. So it's okay in many people's minds to do as you suggest. > "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote > Jeff [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Welfare and all. So it's okay in many people's minds to do > as you suggest. All right then. Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them how much to come over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them to get in quickly and without damage, which is why you're calling them. OP wanted a cheap alternative to bodyshop or garage. I gave him one. I guess I should have considered the morality of the one I gave before doing so. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote >> Jeff [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > guess I should have considered the morality of the one I gave before > doing so. OR... (And I suppose it's a shocking indictment of my own morality that I hadn't thought of this until now.) Just call AAA and tell them the truth: You ARE a AAA member. You have a non-emergency situation. Your car door is stuck shut because something broke inside of it. You need to get the door panel off before you can get inside the door to fix it. You trust AAA to be able to get inside the door quickly and without damage and pop the latch open, which is why you're calling them. How much would they charge to come over and do it? Never hurts to ask. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > Just call AAA and tell them the truth: You ARE a AAA > member. You have a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Never hurts to ask. Indeed. Just like going to the doc's office or hospital without insurance and asking if they give a discount for paying cash. Many docs and hospitals in the U.S. now do. Today more haggling over prices takes place in U.S. medicine than in the street markets of Mexico. And please spare me how this is not a problem in Canada. :-) > Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them > how much to come [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > gave before doing > so. Screw morality, since it varies with people's moods. My argument is based in something black-and-white: Mass economics which depends in no small part on people cooperating. We gotta live together. Cheapest way of living together en masse is to cooperate with certain rules designed to make things as inexpensive en masse as possible. I would very much be inclined to call AAA and ask how much to open my busted door. It is an emergency in that one cannot get out of the car while sitting at a traffic light. We do have a major safety issue here. I wonder whether Honda might even cover this under warranty. >> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them >> how much to come [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > We do have a major safety issue here. I wonder whether Honda > might even cover this under warranty. In a 1990 car? I doubt it. In some cars, you need to have a door open to get inside the door. Not all, though. Jeff > Elle wrote: >>> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > In a 1990 car? I doubt it. In 2001 the auto retractor on my driver's side seat belt failed on my 91 Civic. Turns out it has a seat belt warranty. I did not pay a cent to have it fixed. It was not a cheap fix, based on how long it took them. > In some cars, you need to have a door open to get inside > the door. Not all, though. Speculation is drowning substantive discussion lately here. I doubt it, too, but it's worth checking the warranty or making a call. >> Call AAA and tell them you're NOT a AAA member. Ask them how much to come >> over and open your door for you. Just say you trust them to get in [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > We do have a major safety issue here. I wonder whether Honda might even > cover this under warranty. Well, non functioning brakes on a 15 year old vehicle is probably a more "major safety issue" and I doubt they will cover that under warranty... > Excellent. If the AAA guy can't open a door, then you don't have your > keys. Having an open door won't make much difference. It still won't work. Or, if he's smart, he can open the other door. SignatureNick Cassimatis >>>Do you have AAA? >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few seconds, no > more. OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA??? JT > OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA??? > > JT We have CAA, which the Canadian equivalent. CAA and AAA share duties, so a CAA membership is good for the US and a AAA membership is good for Canada. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA??? >> >>JT > > We have CAA, which the Canadian equivalent. CAA and AAA share duties, so a > CAA membership is good for the US and a AAA membership is good for Canada. Ah thanks... For enlighting the ol' grump! JT >>>OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA??? >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ah thanks... For enlighting the ol' grump! We had to use that cross-border compatibility just this past summer. We'd driven down to Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC for summer vacation. At one point we were at Tyson's Galleria mall in McLean, VA. After some shopping we went back to the car, only to discover the keys were locked in. Oops! Called CAA in Canada, was switched to AAA. AAA dispatched a guy who took an hour to get there (it was busy that night), then was into the car in 10 seconds. The hour's wait wasn't so bad. We just went for supper at Legal Seafoods of Boston in Tyson's Galleria. We were finished and paying our bill the instant the AAA guy phoned to say he was ten minutes away. Perfect timing. Worst part is my wife won't even allow the photos of that incident in the picture album of the vacation! She's embarrassed because she's the one that left the keys on the back seat. By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was excellent and the service impeccable. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > We had to use that cross-border compatibility just this past summer. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was > excellent and the service impeccable. He could have been 2 miles away when dispatched, and still taken the hour to get there - that local area can have some of the worst traffic I've ever seen. I can't imagine it the day after Thanksgiving (biggest shopping day of the year). SignatureNick Cassimatis >> We had to use that cross-border compatibility just this past summer. >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > hour to get there - that local area can have some of the worst traffic > I've ever seen. You got that right. But in this case, he was in DC when the dispatcher called him. He had to drive all the way over to McLean from there. > I can't imagine it the day after Thanksgiving > (biggest shopping day of the year). VA had a brief "tax holiday" during the August "Back to School" period. We were right in the middle of that. The malls were nuts. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>> By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food >>> was excellent and the service impeccable. By the way, there is somebody I know who follows this group but chooses not to post. To him: We really meant to go to the Daily Grill, but never made it... Next time. And there will be one! SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>>>OK, I gotta ask... Who do youse Canadians know about AAA??? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was > excellent and the service impeccable. BTW, speakin' of Boston and food, if you ever get to that neck o' the woods, don't miss a meal at Durgan Park. It's an experience of a lifetime! JT >> By the way, I highly recommend Legal Seafoods of Boston. The food was >> excellent and the service impeccable. > > BTW, speakin' of Boston and food, if you ever get to that neck o' the > woods, don't miss a meal at Durgan Park. It's an experience of a > lifetime! Durgin Park http://www.durgin-park.com/menu.asp Thanks. Passing this on to the wife. We LOVE good restaurants. And Boston is one of our next US venues. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few > seconds, no more. I found out how fast when my Integra GS-R was stolen last June. Not a good way to find out,either. Death to auto thieves! SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > >> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Death to auto thieves! you need the gun and rottweiler solution. /really/ freakin' effective. >> >>> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > you need the gun and rottweiler solution. /really/ freakin' effective. Just don't shoot the Rottweiler. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>> >>>> I'm always astonished how fast they can break into cars. A few [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Just don't shoot the Rottweiler. if the rotty's doing its job, you won't need to shoot anything! just dial 911 and have the ambulance collect what's left of the remains out of your driveway. >> Do you have AAA? > > Yes, I have AAA. I am driving the car by getting in and out the passenger > door. > > G I don't think AAA will cover this. >>> Do you have AAA? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I don't think AAA will cover this. Part of AAA's job is getting you out of a locked car when you "don't have spare keys". Once the guy pops the lock and it's discovered the door won't open, you're supposed to act all innocent and say, "Aw geez, now I'll have to take the door panel off to fix it. Do you think you could move the latch mechanism and get the door open for me?" It's free and certainly worth a try before doing it the hard way, no? SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > Part of AAA's job is getting you out of a locked car when you "don't > have spare keys". Unfortunate mistake! That should read "getting you INTO a locked car..." SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ On 2/5/2008 9:32 PM Tegger spake these words of knowledge: >> Part of AAA's job is getting you out of a locked car when you "don't >> have spare keys". > > Unfortunate mistake! > > That should read "getting you INTO a locked car..." I seem to recall a popular "Blondestar" soundbite about doing it the first way... RFT!!! Dave Kelsen SignatureThey think I'm paranoid; they all talk about it behind my back. Let me ask the obvious question in January, is it frozen shut? did it rain or snow last night, did it get below freezing? > 1990 Honda Accord - drivers door won't open > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Gene W the rear door on my 98 civic gets a little finicky in this weather. You have to pull both inside and outside door handles and push! Then it opens. Only below -20oC, otherwise it works fine. I think its from when I installed power locks into the door, may not have lined up the actuator quite properly, and maybe cut the lock pin a little too aggressively... oh well live and learn! and use the door on the other side of the car.... HA! t >Let me ask the obvious question in January, is it frozen shut? did it rain >or snow last night, did it get below freezing? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Gene W |
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