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Car Forum / Honda Cars / February 2008

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2006 Accord LX: front bumper replacement

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Ben - 14 Feb 2008 21:18 GMT
Hi,

I managed to crack my front bumper on an 06 Accord LX (4D Sedan)
pretty badly.   I've currently had  two estimates from body shops,
both run around $625-650.   My insurance deductible is $1000.

Looking at the bumper cover, I see that it's a fairly simple system of
clips and such that holds it in place. I was thinking about replacing
it myself.    I've been looking at a few used auto part websites, and
not having a lot of luck finding a used one -- and even if I found a
used one, there's no guarantee that the color would match.      I
realize some aftermarket parts might be $60 cheaper, but probably
still need to be professionally painted/installed.

Anyone have advice or ideas about a cheaper way to proceed?   Assuming
I could find a matching color, is it relatively straightforward to
install these?  Will I need expensive/specialized tools, or unusual
equipment?

-Ben
Tegger - 15 Feb 2008 00:10 GMT
Ben <jbenjam@gmail.com> wrote in news:21b050ba-36dc-4306-975d-
a957a91bafcf@q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> install these?  Will I need expensive/specialized tools, or unusual
> equipment?

Bumper skin removal sometimes involves removing the entire bumper
assembly by undoing four bolts and four screws, then detaching the skin
from the rebar once the assembly is off the car.

Bumper skin removal can also require a tedious and exacting disassembly
on-car of many many small screws and bolts, leaving the rebar in place.
If you do not know the exact sequence beforehand, it may take you many
hours of fiddling and bodywork paint scratching before you manage to
puzzle it out.

Which type do you have? Probably the second, but I don't know for sure.

I would stay very far away from aftermarket. They are very poor quality
and never fit properly. Plus they will crack pretty much the first time
your kid runs into your bumper with his tricycle, the plastic is so
Chinese-cheap.

If you really want to do this yourself, hold out for a used OEM skin,
and buy the Honda factory shop manual for your car. Don't count on being
able to find a used skin, much less one in the correct color. Frontal
collisions are the most common. Try here: www.car-part.com

If you're being quoted $650 parts, labor and paint, that's awfully good.
TOO good maybe. The paint alone should be close to $500. I wonder if
they're just going to repair the existing bumper -- which can be a
perfectly valid way of fixing the problem. But make sure they're going
to paint the bumper OFF the car.

$650 sounds to me like they're cheaping out and planning to repair the
skin and paint it on the car.

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Jim Yanik - 15 Feb 2008 00:28 GMT
> Ben <jbenjam@gmail.com> wrote in news:21b050ba-36dc-4306-975d-
> a957a91bafcf@q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> $650 sounds to me like they're cheaping out and planning to repair the
> skin and paint it on the car.

ISTR hearing about an on-line parts supplier that would paint the
(new)bumper cover according to the paint code you supply from your car's
door jamb.
It arrives fully cured and ready to install.

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Tegger - 15 Feb 2008 02:12 GMT
>> $650 sounds to me like they're cheaping out and planning to repair
>> the skin and paint it on the car.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> car's door jamb.
> It arrives fully cured and ready to install.

I believe it, but for how much? And is the skin OEM?

Won't be less than $500, I'll bet, unless they're batching them for paint,
which I doubt.

You've got to figure at least $100 for shipping alone, plus the cost of the
shipping materials. Paint scuffs so very easily.

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howard - 15 Feb 2008 19:17 GMT
> ISTR hearing about an on-line parts supplier that would paint the
> (new)bumper cover according to the paint code you supply from your car's
> door jamb.
> It arrives fully cured and ready to install.

Just because you give a color code, doesn't mean the paint will match. A
good painter will blend the paint to match not only the color code, but
match the car itself. Consider sun fade as well as the slight difference
from different assembly points, and other environmental factors. Without the
blending it can stick out like a sore thumb.
Howard
Jim Yanik - 16 Feb 2008 00:35 GMT
>> ISTR hearing about an on-line parts supplier that would paint the
>> (new)bumper cover according to the paint code you supply from your
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> factors. Without the blending it can stick out like a sore thumb.
> Howard

a 2006 auto should not be that faded yet.
Plus,the painter can "guesstimate" how much the paint faded from the age of
the car(and conditions of the car's storage and solar climate),and adjust
the mix to compensate.

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howard - 17 Feb 2008 02:34 GMT
>>> ISTR hearing about an on-line parts supplier that would paint the
>>> (new)bumper cover according to the paint code you supply from your
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> the car(and conditions of the car's storage and solar climate),and adjust
> the mix to compensate.

I guarantee you'll see the difference.
Howard
L Alpert - 17 Feb 2008 15:31 GMT
>>> ISTR hearing about an on-line parts supplier that would paint the
>>> (new)bumper cover according to the paint code you supply from your
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> age of the car(and conditions of the car's storage and solar
> climate),and adjust the mix to compensate.

As in anything else, there is variations in shade from lot to lot of paint
(the actual specification will call for a range).  It is much better than
years ago, but variability is still the nemesis of just about all
manufacturing processes.

Overspray and blending appears to be a normal practice.
L Alpert - 17 Feb 2008 15:28 GMT
>> ISTR hearing about an on-line parts supplier that would paint the
>> (new)bumper cover according to the paint code you supply from your
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> environmental factors. Without the blending it can stick out like a
> sore thumb. Howard

This is why when doing most repairs, there usually will be overspray to
other areas that are not damaged when painting to blend in.

I recently had to replace a fender and rear door skin on my '04 Graphite
Pearl (or dark grey!) Accord.  The insurance estimator included time and
materials to prep and overspray onto the hood, roof, front door skin
(complete) and the rear fender.
motsco_ - 15 Feb 2008 03:57 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> -----------------------

The wreckers in Canada have a parts location service. You should keep
after them to find you a correct one. The color will be 'pre-faded' too.

Parts diagram is at www.slhondaparts.com

It might be terribly easy. My '97 CR-V is easy.

'Curly'
tww1491 - 16 Feb 2008 01:02 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> -Ben

Given the age of the car, it would be worth fixing it right even if it costs
a $1,000.
AHappyCamper - 17 Feb 2008 14:33 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> -Ben
An insurance claim ends up boosting your rates, usually.  You will
actually totally pay for that claim, within the year!

Take personal responsibility, get it done with OEM parts, and as Tegger
says, proper maintenance procedures, painted off the car, and I might
add, the correct plasticsized pliable warranteed paint, or else it will
crack within a few months!
 
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