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Car Forum / Honda Cars / May 200895 CIVIC 1.5 GRADUALLY LOSES COOLANT--
The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG highway. Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant each to the radiator and the reservoir. Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources? I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are familiar with this engine and this year or series. Thanks in advance ! > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG > highway. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks in advance ! Hi, I'd just replace rad. cap on spec. and watch exhaust for sign of water (sweet smell and white steam color) in case there is head gasket problem. Also keep a watch on coolant temp, >> The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG >> highway. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > (sweet smell and white steam color) in case there is head gasket > problem. Also keep a watch on coolant temp, I had the same problem. It turned out to be a leaking water pump, which was due for replacement anyway. Happy ending. On May 13, 11:05 pm, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" > > septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks for the information !! > On May 13, 11:05 pm, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Thanks for the information !! One note, though: I have the 1.6 engine, in a sedan. The principle remains the same, however. > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG > highway. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks in advance ! 1. learn to cross-post. 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses, radiator, coolant pump, etc. 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head gasket. > septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: > > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head gasket. Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post? I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered. This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda owners, etc. >> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: >>> The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly involved with Hondas > to share their experiences with other Honda owners, etc. but you posted a generic crap question, so how can you be offended when you get a generic crap answer??? specify exactly what you've done to help yourself, then maybe the FREE EXPERT advice you seek will be more forthcoming. or you can wait until psychic wednesday. your call. > septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: > >> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - by the way, thanks for your stupid generic overbearing rantings...next time, if you don't have the direct experience, stay out of it. Save the tutoring for the dumb-f.cks who constitute your audience. I suppose "1995 Honda Civic 1.5" doesn't sufficiently narrow it down for you... >> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: >>>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > time, if you don't have the direct experience, stay out of it. Save > the tutoring for the dumb-f.cks who constitute your audience. eh? do i have experience or do i not??? i can't "tutor" unless i have experience. make up your mind. > I > suppose "1995 Honda Civic 1.5" doesn't sufficiently narrow it down for > you... no, but opening the hood and bothering to say what you'd taken the time to look for sure would. which you still haven't. bottom line: when you're PAYING for service, you can take the vehicle in with little or no information because you're going to get charged for it anyhow. and you get to be as much of an a.shole as you want because it's your money. but when you want something for FREE, like you do right now, YOU get to do the homework. now let's see how long it takes you to figure out that being a demanding uncooperative jerk about this doesn't exactly inspire a whole lot of answers. > septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: > >> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I have tried nothing other than make observations for the obvious...and, I am not going to jump through your hoops. If no one chooses to respond to the issue at hand because they have not had a coolant loss experience with the specified vehicle/engine, that is expected and appreciated. However, if someone has had direct experience with the issue at hand and chooses to not respond, that is fine, too. Group members are free to act as they see fit. This group is not a club for little boys to keep their secrets from the other little boys. I will find the answer shortly, one way or another. In this age of information, thinking one can have another over a barrel by withholding information is ridiculous. >> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: >>>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > this age of information, thinking one can have another over a barrel > by withholding information is ridiculous. you say: "This group is not a club for little boys to keep their secrets from the other little boys." but you started by saying: "I am not going to jump through your hoops." something of a contradictory conundrum is it not? and if you "already know how to diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks" why are you even here? so let's start again: what exactly have you done so far? where and what have you checked? You guys make me Fuckin laugh , this thread is off the hook! Lol. But back on topic. Loosin some coolant, well is there any sign of coolant on the ground where you park ur car , like overnight? If so does it seem to be becoming from tje drivers side of the motor? If so your water pump is goin out. It will all most look as if it were comin from the plastic timimg belt cover piece. When the bearing goes out in em they got these little holes, called weep holes that leak out coolant when they start to go bad. And if it were your head gasket you wouldn't have as good gas milage as you claim so I'd rule that idea out. Another way to check if it's your head gasket would be to look under your radiator cap. Does it look like chocalate milk? If not then ur gaskets all good. But here's the best advice I can give you. Hit up my website http://joezlife.googlepages.com/backwoodztuner Go to the manual section and download ur self an owners manual for your car. Not no piece of sh.t chiltons or haynes but a Factory Service Manual specific for ur car. The best trouble shooting guides are found within them pages and will point u in the right direction. And now you don't gotta argue with dude who thinks he knows hondas lol! Good luck hope this helps u out I hope my answer wasn't as generic as the rest. Haahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaa Oh yeah one more thought, it could be your radiator cap might be jus gettin old and wore and may need to be replaced. I had a buddy who had overheating problems and coolant loss problems to. And it all came down to his radiator cap. One more place to look is on the most bottom part of your radiator. Where the lil fins part meet up with the bottom part. Jus pop ur hood and look down towards the bottom of ur radiator. Look for any coolant . Sometimes radiators get lil pin hole leaks that very slowly let coolant seep out and over time a pint could easily be lost. > Oh yeah one more thought, it could be your radiator cap might be jus > gettin old and wore and may need to be replaced. I had a buddy who had [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > very slowly let coolant seep out and over time a pint could easily be > lost. THANKS !!! Your suggestions as to where to zero in on are greatly appreciated !! Your site is great, too. I already have an authentic Honda manual (yes, Haynes and Chilton are fire-starting material at best). > You guys make me Fuckin laugh , this thread is off the hook! Lol. But > back on topic. Loosin some coolant, well is there any sign of coolant [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I hope my answer wasn't as generic as the rest. > Haahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaa I don't know about your answer being generic (ok, it was), but it was pretty close to unreadable. What are you illiterate or something, cause I put a lot more detail then your sh.t talkin posts. Damn surrounded by. A bunch of haters, I bet if people helped post questions to help dude out instead of quotin my sh.t then maybe we could help man out. But since u gotta quote me, probably means u ain't got nothin helpful to post, so hate on my suggestions it'll make you feel bigger and smarter then me, jus look at the results. Lol > I don't know about your answer being generic (ok, it was), but it was > pretty close to unreadable. > What are you illiterate or something, cause I put a lot more detail > then your sh.t talkin posts. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I don't know about your answer being generic (ok, it was), but it was > > pretty close to unreadable.- Hide quoted text - A reply to the group AND an email saying a whole bunch more, that's called taking things too seriously. Lighten up, Francis. > You guys make me Fuckin laugh , this thread is off the hook! Lol. But > back on topic. Loosin some coolant, well is there any sign of coolant [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > under your radiator cap. Does it look like chocalate milk? If not then > ur gaskets all good. rubbish. that may work for detroit, but not hondas - honda head gaskets typically just blow gas. if it's a slow leak, you may need coolant analysis. if fast, you'll see bubbles in the expansion reservoir. > But here's the best advice I can give you. Hit up > my website http://joezlife.googlepages.com/backwoodztuner [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I hope my answer wasn't as generic as the rest. > Haahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaa > > You guys make me Fuckin laugh , this thread is off the hook! Lol. But > > back on topic. Loosin some coolant, well is there any sign of coolant [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > typically just blow gas. if it's a slow leak, you may need coolant > analysis. if fast, you'll see bubbles in the expansion reservoir. Come on now, the guy is a bonafide "tuner". I bet he's got some expert advice on cold air intakes and undercar neon tubes. "septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in news:9c39c643- f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com: >> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote: >> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly involved with Hondas > to share their experiences with other Honda owners, etc. If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one. The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak locations than any other Honda model or engine. The usual suspects are 1) corroded/fractured rad 2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!) 3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant) 4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir 5) leaking head gasket If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.  SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > "septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in > news:9c39c643- [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion > chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck. anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >> "septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in >> news:9c39c643- [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do. Big stretch >>"septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in >>news:9c39c643- [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do. Yep... The 1300 engine in late gen 2 Civics and early CRX models are the only ones I know of that approached those figures. I also suspect that mileage on those would not be as high with today's crappy gas. My '83 Civic FE gets around 41 mpg in mixed driving but that also includes keeping it 60 mph or lower. Noteworthy may be the fact that it has an '81 engine which was not quite as efficient. Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything... JT >> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything... Or simply be guessing, or doing the miles-per-tank thing. SignatureTegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Or simply be guessing, or doing the miles-per-tank thing. I asked on a Nissan forum about Sentra mileage,and some guys were quoting what their trip computer was showing as their present mileage,not actual miles traveled from the odometer divided by gallons put in to fill back up to FULL.Their quoted MPG from their trip computer was rather high. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > >> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I hear you on this. Yes, the typical 99.999% US moron driver not only doesn't understand supply and demand and how they affect gasoline prices, they also don't have a clue as to how to determine actually fuel economy in miles driven divided by gallon consumed. I, for one, have been checking actual fuel economy continually for 30+ years as the door squeaks before I open it. Ask any of the moronic 99.999 and they will say something like "tanks per week/month/whatever." I don't mind, because I snap up the full-size late 90's Ford cars for a steal (Town Cars, Continentals, Crown Vics and Grand Marquis) for their amazing fuel economy--their owners in their own ignorance consider those cars gas guzzlers ...go figure. Some of the reasons why my 95 Civic gets such consistenly great fuel is economy: Full synthetic oil; tires inflated to 35 psi front, 32 psi rear; super-smooth accelerating; anticipating stop lights; driving at steady speeds, usually not more than 5 over the limit; minimizing braking; if it ain't moving it ain't running (no pre-warming/cooling car); all driving is rural/small town. Also, the wheel alignment is set at zero compensation for crowned roads or anything (front wheels dead parallel to one another); frequent tire rotation to provent chopping and pulling; bla bla bla My 99 Continental sometimes gets 30 MPG--pretty good for a blazing fast heavy car. > > "septic...@peoplepc.com" <septic...@peoplepc.com> wrote in > > news:9c39c643- [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > - Show quoted text - canadian gallon? > > > "septic...@peoplepc.com" <septic...@peoplepc.com> wrote in > > > news:9c39c643- [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Dude, it's like dude, it's cool dude, whatever dude, farout dude, dude !!
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