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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 200895 Odyssey- heater cable and starter
My Ody has developed 2 problems and I would like a little reality check on both of them. 1. The heater control cable has become disconnected. The cable has detached from the dash control unit. It is not at the valve's end of the cable. Heat lever works freely (too freely!). Can this be a simple clip replacement, or a minor repair, or does this usually mean that the Control Unit has to be replaced? 2. The car will sometimes not start when the key is turned. The dash lights come on and they dim when the attempt to start is made... but no engine cranking occurs. Does that sound like the solenoid? If so, does that mean a new starter? Thanks, Larry > My Ody has developed 2 problems and I would like a little > reality check on both of them. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > minor repair, or does this usually mean that the Control > Unit has to be replaced? How minor it is depends on how handy a person is, because taking dashes even partially apart is often a pain. You will have to pull the climate (= dash) control unit and examine the connection. See http://www.autozone.com/shopping/repairGuide.htm?pageId=0900c152800b0bf6 > 2. The car will sometimes not start when the key is > turned. The dash lights come on and they dim when the > attempt to start is made... but no engine cranking occurs. > Does that sound like the solenoid? If so, does that mean a > new starter? One candidate is bad solenoid starter contacts. See http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html (thanks to Curly for this link). This is a known problem on older Hondas. Other causes are possible. "Larry B" wrote... > 2. The car will sometimes not start when the key is turned. The dash > lights come on and they dim when the attempt to start is made... but no > engine cranking occurs. Does that sound like the solenoid? If so, does > that mean a new starter? A solution for you on the obvious side, assuming it's a standard... do you have the clutch pedal down when starting? My wife's car has a clutch switch killswitch on it and the exact thing with the dash lights and lack of cranking happens. > "Larry B" wrote... >> 2. The car will sometimes not start when the key is turned. The dash [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > My wife's car has a clutch switch killswitch on it and the exact thing > with the dash lights and lack of cranking happens. also check out this site concerning your starter solenoid and worn contacts.some Hondas don't have a replaceable solenoid. http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html  SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >> "Larry B" wrote... >>> 2. The car will sometimes not start when the key is turned. The dash [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html Apparently, mine is one of the non-replacement types (solenoid contacts). The 95's apparenlty had Mitsuba (SM402-03) starters, not NDs (acc to http://www.wai-wetherill.com/home.cfm ). As far as the ignition switch goes.. could be! The thing that I keep thinking about though is the fact that the problem is kind of digital.... either works or it doesn't, on or off. There is nothing in between like a sluggish starter and I would think that a bad ignition switch would give a range of conductivity issues. Logic, however, does not always previal. This is where experience would could for a lot. Maybe a loose connector of some kind? Thanks, Lar > >> "Larry B" wrote... > >>> 2. The car will sometimes not start when the key is turned. The dash [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > is where experience would could for a lot. Maybe a loose connector of some > kind? Thanks, Lar One other obvious question that I don't see anyone has brought up -- how old is the battery? Seeing as how you've got resistance when you try to start it (lights dim), its pretty much got to be either a weak battery, a starter that is staring to draw too much, or increased resistance somewhere in the path between the two. > "Larry B" wrote... >> 2. The car will sometimes not start when the key is turned. The dash [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > My wife's car has a clutch switch killswitch on it and the exact thing > with the dash lights and lack of cranking happens. No kill switch. but thanks. > My Ody has developed 2 problems and I would like a little reality check on > both of them. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks, Larry Just wanted to close this up. The heater cable had become disconnected from the lever!!! So, that was great. But the starter was bad, so I let my mechanic change it out. Thanks for all your help. It was invaluable... and fun!!! Have a safe and fun New Years!!. Larry |
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