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Car Forum / Honda Cars / April 2009Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. Although we got 60-65mpg on our 2-ton Mercedes-Benz C280, we only claim 50mpg. On a bad traffic day it's doing 42mpg while a hybrid doing 25-32mpg. Over 20,000 miles have been tested. Please prove us wrong by bringing your hybrid to compare, we'll give you a special discount for helping us help America, please email FreeEnergy@extra150miles.com to participate in a comparison (for Seattle hybrid owners only). PS. In terms of power, we beat all BMW's series, and toe-to-toe with 2006 Dodge Charger Police. The best of all, we save fuel by as much as 2X. Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. > We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for > only 4% of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased > nearly 2X. extra150miles.com Good for a laugh, but I have a headache from the crappy spelling, grammar and general b.s. >> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for >> only 4% of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Good for a laugh, but I have a headache from the crappy spelling, grammar > and general b.s. Come on Satan, can you speak Japanese? or any foreign language better than my English. A good laugh back at the ignorance. > Well, a new revelation happened today. While checking thermostat after > draining fluid and later refilling when I started car I heard a > rattling sound coming from water pump area (somewhat loud) that > eventually disappeared when fluid finally circulated. I'm 90% sure > it's a defective water pump now and not a clogged radiator or bad Good for you, I hope you didn't order a rebuilt water-pump, sellers always lie to you about their parts meeting the oem spec. I went through Schuck's whole inventory, they have the same terrible frictions on their water-pumps. Be sure you can turn the rotor of a water-punmp up to 18 turns. 3 turns is not acceptible. At Optimum Fuel Systems, we find problems like this for people, people who don't understand us call us "snake oil", that's why we can improve the car's performance substantially. > people who don't understand us call us "snake oil", actually, it's people who do understand you who call you snake oil.  SignatureIt's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. >We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% >of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. Bernie Madoff? Is that you? >>We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>4% [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bernie Madoff? Is that you? On LSD Gordon? TODAY THIS IS YOU: Full tank = 400 miles @ 50MPG Why?? :( - PriusChat Forums I've never seen the first bubble go to blinking so fast before. ..... Drove 42 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, <<< Very poor... THIS IS ME: My green Mercedes-Benz C280, Full tank = 740 miles @ 58MPG Drove 68 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, Power Equal to Police Car. "Optimum Fuel Systems" did it. Tomorrow: Even if you can go with your 2010 Prius for 640 miles you''ll still will be a loser. I see I already beat you in both power and fuel efficiency. Let's raise in front of the medias. Prove me wrong and I won't come back to bother you. Deal? Let's start from Seattle or Portland, going toward California, see who will get there first and who will run out of fuel first. Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. GasSaver@extra150miles.come > Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. Why should any of us give a charlatan any free publicity? SignatureIt's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. >>Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. > > Why should any of us give a charlatan any free publicity? Just a general observation here, a friend has been fiddlin' with hydrogen assist and insists that he's getting better than 30mpg in an older Suburban... JT > Just a general observation here, a friend has been fiddlin' with hydrogen > assist and insists that he's getting better than 30mpg in an older > Suburban... > > JT Today I read that the University of North Dakota has solved the hydrogen infrastructure problem. You can read about their work here: http://www.undeerc.org/news/newsitem.aspx?id=340 I poked around their site a bit without finding out what happens to the carbon. Obviously making hydrogen from gasoline and ethanol doesn't address the peak oil problem or the ethanol acreage problem, but it may mitigate climate change. At a minimum, solving the infrastructure problem will let hydrogen powered cars move mainstream while alternative techniques are developed. >>>We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>>4% [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >68 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, Power Equal to Police Car. >"Optimum Fuel Systems" did it. My red Acura - tank empty = 2000 miles @ infinity mpg and the tank is now full. Power = the Space Shuttle. Me laughing at you did it. >Tomorrow: >Even if you can go with your 2010 Prius for 640 miles you''ll still will be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >front of the medias. Prove me wrong and I won't come back to bother you. >Deal? Tomorrow you will claim your C280 did better than my Acura. Hey dipshit. If you can prove what you say, why aren't you on TV rather than on usenet? >Let's start from Seattle or Portland, going toward California, see who will >get there first and who will run out of fuel first. > >Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. > >GasSaver@extra150miles.come > We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% > of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. But what exactly you are trying to compare? A custom made car to a factory mass produced vehicle? Come back to do the comparison if you make yours a factory produced, available to be purchased and serviced car with a known in advance price tag. > We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% > of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. Yeah Yeah Yeah If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~) >> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >> 4% [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every > vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~) You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common sense knows that's impractical. Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact you're driving a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you made are: 1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room. 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do, they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up. GasSaver >>> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>> 4% [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common > sense knows that's impractical. <snip> Where is your documentation? How does your claim work? If there is nothing concrete for others to look at, then the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted". Trust is earned, not sold on a soapbox. >>>> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>>> 4% [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > nothing concrete for others to look at, then the old saying "A fool and > his money are soon parted". Trust is earned, not sold on a soapbox. This old fart would like to have their patent number. I'm always looking for a sure-fire investment opportunity like, for example, buying my Prius. > Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving > me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do, > they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up. Thus demonstrating that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. Thanks for proving that you are a charlatan and a fraud. SignatureIt's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. >> Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving >> me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thus demonstrating that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. > Thanks for proving that you are a charlatan and a fraud. Michelle Steiner claims she knows alot about fraud and hybrid vehicles, here you go: 1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Honda Sued Over Hybrid Mileage http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2007/07/honda-sued-over.html 2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Why hybrids are crap: >I just returned from a 700 mile trip up and across NY State. It > included mountainous terrain and an average speed of 70+ mph (with the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and I got a sore behind in the bargain from being shoved into a tin > can. I think we have and do make wonderful cars. *** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and call their vehicle a hybrid. Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I take it Michelle works for a car dealer. > Michelle Steiner claims she knows alot about fraud and hybrid > vehicles, here you go: No, I didn't make any such claim, you liar. I said that you demonstrated that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. I do know enough about fraud to know that you are a fraud. > *** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and call > their vehicle a hybrid. Perhaps, but Toyota isn't one of them. > Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of > your whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy > batteries. And yet again, you show that you don't know anything about hybrid technology. By the way, "Ted" had no chance in hell of winning that bogus law suit, as clearly explained at the URL you so kindly provided: We scoff a bit because Honda doesn¹t set the figures on the sticker, the Environmental Protection Agency does.. We¹re no legal experts, but we don¹t understand how an automaker can be at fault for being forced to put EPA figures on a sticker. The EPA also admitted that the tests that led to 2007 and earlier figures were not accurate and instituted new tests, resulting in lower mileage figures. Mileage also varies due to driver habits, especially with hybrids. Automotive journalists can tell you that driving a car at its limits for a week won¹t return the normal day-to-day commute numbers that owners experience. > I take it Michelle works for a car dealer. Wrong again. If you had any sense at all, you would know that no one here believes your malarkey. SignatureIt's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. > Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your > whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I > take it Michelle works for a car dealer. Um, she doesn't now nor has she ever. Anyway, do you think it's good advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? Every time you post here, you damage your reputation, if that's even possible anymore. SignatureMy Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> >> Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your >> whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Um, she doesn't now nor has she ever. Anyway, do you think it's good > advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? Not around the world, but around English speaking people! Sorry Mike you feel that way but who started first? I was always nice with you guys in the beginning. She calls me fraud like someone accusing your sister/mother of being a prostitute without knowing their backgrounds. My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky about little poor English. You guys again and again define good English = sign of intelligence. Is that wrong!! I learned tehcnologies 20-yrs before my english. Then she goes on claiming her 1-ton hybrid car safer than my 2-ton car. Why can't I express my view back ? She misleads people, some people could actually believe her. I hope you won't find the following statement antagonizing the world: Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas mileage then some normal cars? ... http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detroit-auto-show-honda-new-insight-25413.html > Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas > mileage then some normal cars? ... > http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detroit-auto-show-honda-new-insight-25413.html What normal cars get better gas mileage than the Insight? The morons on that site are trying to compare their own mileage with the Insight's EPA estimated mileage, and that's an invalid comparison. Further, the Yaris and the Insight are different classes of cars, further making the comparison invalid. Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight. SignatureIt's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. >> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas >> mileage then some normal cars? ... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight. If you go here: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm you can look up EPA and actual user mpg for most cars. Look at 2008 models to get a good population of real owners' fuel economy experiences. The most efficient cars are: 2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49) Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40) So what have we learned? 1. The top hybrids both get significantly better mileage than the teeny tiny Smart car, and way better than any other gas or diesel car on the market. 2. The top hybrids both beat their EPA overall estimates, by a pretty big margin in the case of the Honda. 3. GasSaver is a lying sack of sh.t. No, wait. We already knew that. > 2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) > Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > teeny tiny Smart car, and way better than any other gas or diesel car > on the market. Not to mention that the Smart For 2 requires premium gas. > 3. GasSaver is a lying sack of sh.t. No, wait. We already knew > that. Oh my brother, testify! SignatureIt's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. >>> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas >>> mileage then some normal cars? ... [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >2. The top hybrids both beat their EPA overall estimates, by a pretty >big margin in the case of the Honda. As was pointed out, a lot depends on the driving technique. When I drive my Fit "conservatively", I can usually get 32 or so in town. When I drive like I normally do, I get around 28. When I make my occasional long haul (like the 240 miles to Houston), I can get 35 at an average of 75. >3. GasSaver is a lying sack of sh.t. No, wait. We already knew that. Perhaps if he built a car that ran on methane, he could compost his bullshit, extract the gas and go forever. Signature- dillon I am not invalid The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not. >>>> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas >>>> mileage then some normal cars? ... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> >>>Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight. Agreed. >>If you go here: >>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49) >>Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40) These little cars will send you to cemetery quicker than you think, No protection, Too thin. Until something terrible happened first then you'll learn. Plus, below is the thing unwise thinkers usually fall for: > How to Build a Hydrogen Gas Generator - Increase Your Gas Mileage > http://automotive-industry-news.50webs.com/Hydrogen_Gas_Generator.htm Even with 2-psi LPG (Propane gas) it can't move your car, why do you people think it's going to save you gas? > >>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) > >>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > protection, Too thin. Until something terrible happened first then you'll > learn. "These little cars"? Your so-called credibility drops with each post you make. The Prius is _not_ a little car by any means, and it does extremely well in crash tests. Ask the SUV driver who rear-ended my car last summer how well a Prius holds up in an accident. Her SUV needed to be towed, I just needed my bumper replaced. SignatureMy Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> > > >>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) > > >>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > you make. The Prius is _not_ a little car by any means, and it does > extremely well in crash tests. Maybe he meant the Smart for 2. SignatureIt's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. > > > >>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) > > > >>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Maybe he meant the Smart for 2. Well, if he meant only that one, he should have made it clear. However, from another post of his (you'll likely have read it by the time you read this post), it's clear he claims the Prius is a death trap. SignatureMy Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> <snip> >Plus, below is the thing unwise thinkers usually fall for: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Even with 2-psi LPG (Propane gas) it can't move your car, why do you people >think it's going to save you gas? Ah, one snake oil seller recognizes another one. Signature- dillon I am not invalid The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not. >>>> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas >>>> mileage then some normal cars? ... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >drive my Fit "conservatively", I can usually get 32 or so in town. >When I drive like I normally do, I get around 28. Wow, I can drive my GS-R like I stole it and still get 24mpg. I don't know how much more I could if I drove it conservatively because I have only had the car 12 years and I haven't gotten around to testing that yet ;-) >When I make my occasional long haul (like the 240 miles to Houston), I >can get 35 at an average of 75. The GS-R still gets about 24 mpg at a constant 75. >>3. GasSaver is a lying sack of sh.t. No, wait. We already knew that. > >Perhaps if he built a car that ran on methane, he could compost his >bullshit, extract the gas and go forever. At least the thermodynamics work out on that plan. > > Anyway, do you think it's good > > advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? > > Not around the world, but around English speaking people! Are you somehoe proud of the fact that people who don't speak English aren't pissed off by your posts? > Sorry Mike you feel that way but who started first? I was always nice with > you guys in the beginning. She calls me fraud like someone accusing your > sister/mother of being a prostitute without knowing their backgrounds. I don't know what you're babbling about. I see that you're crossposting unsolicited commercial material to three newsgroups, including the one I'm subscribed to. That in itself is already enough to piss people off. Are you really unaware that spamming does that? Then I see you insulting hybrid car owners in general, and you're doing that in alt.autos.toyota.prius, which, you seem too stupid to realize, is a group specifically about the Toyota Prius, with is [BIG SURPRISE!] A HYBRID CAR. All the newsgroups you're posting this crap to are carried on servers worldwide, so again I'll ask: Do you think it's good advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? SignatureMy Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> > My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky about > little poor English. You guys again and again define good English = sign > of > intelligence. Is that wrong!! I learned tehcnologies 20-yrs before my > english. What was your first language? > > My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky about > > little poor English. You guys again and again define good English = sign [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What was your first language? Frankly, I don't think that's in any way relevant. In any language, he's acting like a jerk here. SignatureMy Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> >> > My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky >> > about [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Frankly, I don't think that's in any way relevant. In any language, he's > acting like a jerk here. I wasn't asking on your behalf. I thought he might speak one of my languages. If you think his English is bad, you should read my Chinese. Imagine how I feel knowing 1.3 billion people learned it when they were children. > Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and >call their vehicle a hybrid. How do you get an alternator to work as a DC motor? SignatureClive >> Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and >> call their vehicle a hybrid. > How do you get an alternator to work as a DC motor? You need to get one of the "really good" alternators. >>> Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving >>> me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >*** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and >call their vehicle a hybrid. Um, wouldn't that be an AC motor? An alternator is AC, a generator is DC. The diesel-electric locomotive has done a great job in fuel efficiency. It might seem like a huge fuel burner, but look at the ton-miles per gallon. Now, if GM could translate their success over the last 60 years to cars ... >Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your >whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I >take it Michelle works for a car dealer. Signature- dillon I am not invalid The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not. "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:... >> GasSaver wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference. > www.extra150miles.com This page should answer your questions: http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html Thanks. "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:... >> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:59:18 -0400, willshak <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 138 lines] > video > to compressed size so you won't have to spend 1-hr watching it. Joe, Also read this page with open-mind, Press F5 to reload the page first. If you have experience with alternator torque outside the box, you'll see what I mean. http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html. Any way, send me your tamper-free security sticker to seal my gas cap, if I open the gas gap I break your sticker before video ends, that would mean I cheat. If this video won't help you then you should go for a 1-hr test with our cars. Nothing can teach you like a real life experience. Theory and reality are two different things. Too much theories in the newsgroups. Gassaver@extra150miles.com |
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