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Car Forum / Honda Cars / May 2009

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05 odyssey moves forward in neutra

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Zephyr - 14 May 2009 20:29 GMT
Hey all,

have an 05 ody with  75,000  auto trans obviously.
It moves forward in neutral ever so slightly,  If I am a complete stop
on flat ground and put it in N it will start to creep forward.
Hitting the gas does not make it move quicker ...
If I go to reverse and back to N it does not go in reverse still.

not sure whats going on here.

Dave
Charlie Darwin - 14 May 2009 20:58 GMT
> Hey all,
>
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>
> Dave

Are ya' parkin' on a hill now, Davey-boy?
ACAR - 15 May 2009 02:06 GMT
> Hey all,
>
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>
> Dave

carpenter's level might help you figure this one out for yourself.

if you can get it to roll up a hill in N, you should call that guy who
invented cold fusion.
Tegger - 15 May 2009 13:49 GMT
Zephyr <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote in news:a8468878-f376-4cc3-afe0-
7c659ea2455a@s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:

> Hey all,
>
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>
> not sure whats going on here.

You'd be surprised how few "flat" roads are really and truly "flat".

Find a road (or parking lot) that has a very slight, but definite slope.
Point your car UP that slope. Try your "N" thing on that road. Now turn the
vehicle around 180 degrees and try it again. If the car rolls in the same
direction relative to the COMPASS in either direction, then the car is
simply rolling down the slope. If it moves in the same direction relative
to the FRONT OF THE VEHICLE, then you have a tranny problem.

The "N" setting on the transmission disconnects the wheels from the
transmission, so the car would be expected to roll if on a slope.

The "P" setting is the same as "N", except that there is a pin inside the
transmission that locks the works together so the car will not roll.

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Zephyr - 18 May 2009 20:08 GMT
> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:a8468878-f376-4cc3-afe0-
> 7c659ea24...@s20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:
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> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level...  I've tried the
check at many different points, and it always acts the same.
how about this..  the first time I discovered it did this was when
waiting to get into a carwash,  the attendant hadn't yet started me
thru ( one of those track jobbies that pull you along while in N)  The
attendant had to step out of the way, and I hit the brakes because the
car was running him over as he hit the front with the power
washer...
He comes over and says,  hey, put it in N...  I tell him, I already
am!  going thru the wash the car pulled forward of the pushing
mechanism .

thanks

Dave
Tegger - 19 May 2009 00:07 GMT
> Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level...  I've tried the
> check at many different points, and it always acts the same.
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> am!  going thru the wash the car pulled forward of the pushing
> mechanism .

The first thing to check is the fluid level. If it's overfilled, this
symptom will occur.

Have you added fluid recently?

Do you know the correct fluid level checking procedure? Hint: It's NOT the
same as non-Honda cars!

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Zephyr - 19 May 2009 02:01 GMT
> > Thanks for the thoughts on what constitutes level...  I've tried the
> > check at many different points, and it always acts the same.
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> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Yeah,  I've checked it with the car both warm and cold,  not running,
came out between the dots both times.
I'm totally stumped...
I think for now I will just drain and refill the trans and see what
happens,  any other suggestions?
Tegger - 19 May 2009 12:57 GMT
>> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> innews:b8bddca6-b484-4529-b98e-cf6
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> Yeah,  I've checked it with the car both warm and cold,  not running,
> came out between the dots both times.

You checked the level HOT, less than one minute after shutting the
engine off?

> I'm totally stumped...
> I think for now I will just drain and refill the trans and see what
> happens,  any other suggestions?

The service manual is not encouraging. It says there are all sorts of
possible problems that can cause this, some of them serious. Many of
them are stuck shift solenoids, so a drain-and-fill just may help.
Remember to drain-and-fill several times, driving the car in each range
(including Neutal and Reverse) for a bit between each iteration.

When you do the first drain, check the fluid carefully for black or
shiny silver particles.

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Zephyr - 19 May 2009 19:08 GMT
> >> Zephyr <davedejo...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >> innews:b8bddca6-b484-4529-b98e-cf6
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> You checked the level HOT, less than one minute after shutting the
> engine off?

well,  it might have been 65 seconds,  but... :)

> > I'm totally stumped...
> > I think for now I will just drain and refill the trans and see what
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> When you do the first drain, check the fluid carefully for black or
> shiny silver particles.

I will be looking,  honestly though,  given how close this thing is
to the ground I am not excited to crawl under it.  I don't have jack
stands, and only the one lift for changing to the spare donut.  I have
ramps, but I don't think the ground effects is going to let me up
them,  too steep of an incline.  ( I can't get my accord up them
either)..  anyway,  thats my issue.  Thanks for your thoughts.

Dave

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> Tegger
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Tegger - 19 May 2009 22:19 GMT
>> The service manual is not encouraging. It says there are all sorts of
>> possible problems that can cause this, some of them serious. Many of
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> ramps, but I don't think the ground effects is going to let me up
> them,  too steep of an incline.

Yep. You need a floor jack ($100 or so) and a pair of decent jack stands.

>  ( I can't get my accord up them
> either)..  anyway,  thats my issue.  Thanks for your thoughts.

Or you could get a garage to do the drain-and-fill.

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