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Car Forum / Honda Cars / July 20042004 Civic EX air conditioner probl. in 2nd grear
Almost brand new Civic with automatic trans. When car is accelerating in second gear, the air conditioner blows non-cool air. When it hits 3rd,the air gets much cooler. Also ok in 1st and idle. Also, I think the air could be colder when it IS cold... but that's another issue. Is this "2nd gear, 'warm' air" a known issue with the 2004 Civic EX? Thanks, Al On some cars the A/C is shut off during hard acceleration, don't know if that is the case with your Civic. > Almost brand new Civic with automatic trans. When car is accelerating in > second gear, the air conditioner blows non-cool air. When it hits 3rd,the air [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Al What is the relationship of the accelerator pedal to the floor when your car is going through the gears? Captainkrunch > Almost brand new Civic with automatic trans. When car is accelerating in > second gear, the air conditioner blows non-cool air. When it hits 3rd,the air [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Al I'm NOT doing jack-rabbit acceleration. I'm talking normal "from a stop light" acceleration in traffic. I'm not flooring it out if that's what you mean. I guess I should look at the tach and see at what rpm the air turns warm. I know it's in second because it gets colder when it hits 3rd. What's goin' on? Al > What is the relationship of the accelerator pedal to the floor when your car > is going through the gears? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> Al That is an odd thing to have happen. I would call the dealer and tell them about it. Perhaps they have a good explanation. CaptainKrunch > I'm NOT doing jack-rabbit acceleration. I'm talking normal "from a stop light" > acceleration in traffic. I'm not flooring it out if that's what you mean. I [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >> > >> Al It isn't really. Most cars will drop the compressor at high rpm. If he is in second long enough to feel the air to warm up he is dogging it too long. > That is an odd thing to have happen. I would call the dealer and tell them > about it. Perhaps they have a good explanation. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > >> > > >> Al I called the service dept. at the dealer I bought the vehicle from (car only has 2500 miles!) He says this is normal for the Civic... that there is a sensor that will turn off the compressor if the engine needs the power. Do you think they are blowing smoke at me? I had a 1990 4 cyl. Honda Accord EX for 14 years before this new Civic and never noticed the AC change from cold to "regular" air and than back again while driving. Comments? Al > It isn't really. Most cars will drop the compressor at high rpm. If he is in > second long enough to feel the air to warm up he is dogging it too long. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> > >> >> > >> Al > I called the service dept. at the dealer I bought the vehicle from (car only > has 2500 miles!) He says this is normal for the Civic... that there is a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > for 14 years before this new Civic and never noticed the AC change from cold > to "regular" air and than back again while driving. Comments? it's called compressor cut, and is commanded by the ECU. it happens at lower rpm than the older model. it's very noticable on the new civics . It's also normal. Chip >> I called the service dept. at the dealer I bought the vehicle from (car >> only has 2500 miles!) He says this is normal for the Civic... that there is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > civics . It's also normal. > Chip If I had known about this in advance I would not have purchased the car. Do all new cars have compressor cut? Al >>>I called the service dept. at the dealer I bought the vehicle from (car >>>only has 2500 miles!) He says this is normal for the Civic... that there is [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Al Hi, Old cars too. compressor cut off and rpm increase when ideling with a/c on. It's one way of increasing CAFE as well. Tony > If I had known about this in advance I would not have purchased the car. Do > all new cars have compressor cut? It's not necessarily a bad thing. I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma, and as far as I know the AC compressor doesn't turn off automatically. Merging on a freeway is hell, and is only slightly better when I manually turn the AC off. >> If I had known about this in advance I would not have purchased the car. Do >> all new cars have compressor cut? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Merging on a freeway is hell, and is only slightly better when I > manually turn the AC off. My wife has a 2003 Toyota Rav and I think it has about the same size engine. It does not cut off the AC. A friend has the small Acura built on the Civic platform and has a similar engine (but a manual trans.) and he says there is not this problem. The air blows cold but not as cold as my wife's Rav. I called the dealer and he said that if I bring it in they will charge me 50 dollars to do a test on it. Car is 4 months old with only 2k miles on it. I guess the AC is not part of the warrenty. Maybe I should have bought a Toyota.... or waited for a hot summer day to test drive a car I was considering buying. Al On 7/15/04 3:39 PM, in article 10fdqrbgoir7oe3@news20.forteinc.com, "Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote: >>> If I had known about this in advance I would not have purchased the car. Do >>> all new cars have compressor cut? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > dollars to do a test on it. Car is 4 months old with only 2k miles on it. I > guess the AC is not part of the warrenty. You need to find a different dealer. > Maybe I should have bought a Toyota.... or waited for a hot summer day to test > drive a car I was considering buying. > > Al > > I called the dealer and he said that if I bring it in they will charge me 50 > > dollars to do a test on it. Car is 4 months old with only 2k miles on it. I > > guess the AC is not part of the warrenty. > > You need to find a different dealer. Service writer: "This customer keeps complaining about his A/C, but there is nothing wrong with it!" Service manager: "Tell him we'll charge 50 buck just to look at it. Then maybe he'll just go away." >> > I called the dealer and he said that if I bring it in they will charge me >> > 50 dollars to do a test on it. Car is 4 months old with only 2k miles on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Service manager: "Tell him we'll charge 50 buck just to look at it. Then > maybe he'll just go away." I think there IS something wrong with it. I've talked to a ton of folks and no one can relate their car to this problem. I going to try to find some 2004 Civic owners in this area and see if I can get to the bottom of this. Anyone out there with a new Civic EX in a hot climate? Al > I think there IS something wrong with it. I've talked to a ton of folks and no > one can relate their car to this problem. I going to try to find some 2004 > Civic owners in this area and see if I can get to the bottom of this. Anyone > out there with a new Civic EX in a hot climate? > > Al Perhaps you could ask the dealer if you can test drive another 2004 EX from their lot. A friend of mine, who has at best minimal mechanical insight, found a strong smell of burned oil in his car after a service. The dealer was not very cooperative, but finally agreed to check it out with the agreement that if they found nothing wrong, my friend would pay 1/2 labor charge. If they found that they had made a mistake, they would fix it for free. Turned out they had simply forgotten to put on the oil filler cap. You could try to make a similar deal with your service guys. They may not be very motivated to find a problem if it means they have to work for free, though. I have finally found someone else who shares my dissapointment with their 2004 civic's air conditioning! Al, I live in Arizona, and let me tell you, it is no picnic with this car's air conditioning when its 110 degrees out. I have taken my car into the Honda shop 3 times now, and every time they tell me that the air is "normal" and they have also informed me that this model was built to blow warm air when accelerating while getting onto the freeway. Aside from that, there are times when it takes 15-20 minutes for my car to cool down. That doesnt help me out when I have a short drive to the grocery store. Their solution to the problem? They tinted my windows for free. While that is a nice gesture, and it does keep some of the heat out, it doesn't help the actual air conditioner cooling off the car. I have already called the Honda customer service center, to complain. That is when they contacted my local dealership to have them tint my windows. During a follow up phone call from the dealer, I went off on him telling him I will never purchase another Honda again, nor will I keep this vehicle to the end of the lease term which is 2.5 years away. I am assuming he passed this message along to the customer service department because they have not returned any of my phone calls. My next step is to complain to the BBB about this. I refuse to pay $ for a car that I dont even want to drive. The makers of this car should try driving it in the middle of an Arizona summer, then maybe they will build a better air conditioner... I have finally found someone else who shares my dissapointment with their 2004 civic's air conditioning! Al, I live in Arizona, and let me tell you, it is no picnic with this car's air conditioning when its 110 degrees out. I have taken my car into the Honda shop 3 times now, and every time they tell me that the air is "normal" and they have also informed me that this model was built to blow warm air when accelerating while getting onto the freeway. Aside from that, there are times when it takes 15-20 minutes for my car to cool down. That doesnt help me out when I have a short drive to the grocery store. Their solution to the problem? They tinted my windows for free. While that is a nice gesture, and it does keep some of the heat out, it doesn't help the actual air conditioner cooling off the car. I have already called the Honda customer service center, to complain. That is when they contacted my local dealership to have them tint my windows. During a follow up phone call from the dealer, I went off on him telling him I will never purchase another Honda again, nor will I keep this vehicle to the end of the lease term which is 2.5 years away. I am assuming he passed this message along to the customer service department because they have not returned any of my phone calls. My next step is to complain to the BBB about this. I refuse to pay $ for a car that I dont even want to drive. The makers of this car should try driving it in the middle of an Arizona summer, then maybe they will build a better air conditioner... |
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