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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2004

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timing belt replacement

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Peter H - 29 Jul 2004 23:34 GMT
I've just turned 100,000 kms on a 2000 civic, 4 cylinder. I purchased it 7
months ago w/ 80,000. The vehicle seems to have been well maintained and
I've been changing the oil every 5,000. What about the timing belt? I know
the maintenance schedule calls for it to be done around now but wonder if
it's really necessary?

Peter H
E. Meyer - 30 Jul 2004 00:08 GMT
On 7/29/04 5:34 PM, in article
4YeOc.21$M8W1.2@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com, "Peter H"
<PeterH@noltrealyrogers.com> wrote:

> I've just turned 100,000 kms on a 2000 civic, 4 cylinder. I purchased it 7
> months ago w/ 80,000. The vehicle seems to have been well maintained and
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>
> Peter H

Don't press your luck.  It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
pistons smashing into valves).
General Chaos - 12 Aug 2004 05:05 GMT
> Don't press your luck.  It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
> you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
> pistons smashing into valves).

but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
needed to be replaced... i now have a 95 accord with about 167,000 the
shop said it was time, but i tend to disagree and will probably do the
same with my newer honda, just let it run as normal...

sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
often do they truly break?

hum...
Cosmin N. - 12 Aug 2004 07:16 GMT
>>Don't press your luck.  It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
>>you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
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> sure, sure... a horror story could happen, but in the real world, how
> often do they truly break?

You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
at 80000km on the old Geo Storm, but many of them were failing between
60-80000km. GM had to replace all of those engines free of charge. So
timing belts DO break, some sooner than others. Honda over-engineers
their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
it will last indefinitely.

Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
sure not to let anyone I know buy it.

Cosmin
General Chaos - 12 Aug 2004 16:48 GMT
> You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
> for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
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> their cars, so everything lasts longer, but that's not a guarantee that
> it will last indefinitely.

okay... i just go with guy feeling and lots of reading... i've never
seen a case where this timing belt breaks so i'm going to rely on
experience and not replace it...

> Anyway, if you ever decide to sell your Accord, let me know. I'll make
> sure not to let anyone I know buy it.

cute, again, i just think it's a quick way for a shop to make money,
nothing more...
Cosmin N. - 12 Aug 2004 17:10 GMT
>>You're doing it at your own risk. All manufacturers have a maximum life
>>for their timing belts. I remember GM recommended the timing belt change
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> cute, again, i just think it's a quick way for a shop to make money,
> nothing more...

Allright then, I see you're not likely to change your mind, so this
whole thread is pointless.

Cosmin
E. Meyer - 13 Aug 2004 14:22 GMT
On 8/11/04 11:05 PM, in article a-F07CAF.22053611082004@news.uswest.net,

>> Don't press your luck.  It is due right about now, and if it breaks before
>> you get around to changing it, your engine will likely be trashed (visualize
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> hum...

Its really true.  Happened on my VW.  I let it go 10000 miles past the
recommended interval.  Result was a trashed engine.  You could actually hear
the "ping, ping, ping, ping ..." as the pistons smashed into the valves.
Spiff - 16 Aug 2004 05:26 GMT
>but is this really true? i mean, how many timing belts truly break on a
>honda. my old accord had 234,000 and nothing but a clutch and starter
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>
>hum...

again what climate do you live in? and what kind of driving...that
will be part of the equation...

Spiff
E. Meyer - 30 Jul 2004 00:42 GMT
On 7/29/04 5:34 PM, in article
4YeOc.21$M8W1.2@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com, "Peter H"
<PeterH@noltrealyrogers.com> wrote:

> I've just turned 100,000 kms on a 2000 civic, 4 cylinder. I purchased it 7
> months ago w/ 80,000. The vehicle seems to have been well maintained and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Peter H

Oops! Timing belt is not due on a 2000 until 105,000 MILES.  It didn't
notice you were quoting KM until after I hit send.  Consequences of the belt
breaking are true no matter when it happens, though.
disallow - 30 Jul 2004 05:57 GMT
If your quoting in KMs, that means you might be in Canada,
and that means you are probably in the 'Severe Service'
area.  100000km is the appropriate interval for this
vehicle.

I live in Winnipeg, so we have VERY cold weather here, I
have heard of guys busting timing belts at 105k kms, so
don't take the chance, and get it replaced if you live in
the frost belt!!!!!

Best of luck.
t
starboy869 - 30 Jul 2004 17:59 GMT
Yeah.. It's time to change your belt.
Plus shouldn't you have 96k service due also?

Take the car somewhere else other than honda to get the service work done.
Make sure it's a shop that you can trust and willing to use OEM parts.
Honestly $400 for 96k service to check this/that oil change, mtf fuild
change is a bit of a rip off.

T-belt, tensior, and maybe a waterpump will mostly like be around $500+ from
the dealer.  Plus you might need some new seals etc.  Ie:  My cam seals were
leaking on my SiR

Also make sure you use OEM parts and fluids.  Sure honda MTF and coolant a
few dollars more.  Trust me.. Honda OEM parts are the best way to go for
your newer civic.

Chris

> If your quoting in KMs, that means you might be in Canada,
> and that means you are probably in the 'Severe Service'
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> Best of luck.
> t
nntp - 31 Jul 2004 12:10 GMT
160Kkms or 100Kmiles

> I've just turned 100,000 kms on a 2000 civic, 4 cylinder. I purchased it 7
> months ago w/ 80,000. The vehicle seems to have been well maintained and
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>
> Peter H
USCTROJAN - 05 Aug 2004 18:25 GMT
With the timing belt also consider changing the water pump and buy genuine
Honda parts.

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> 160Kkms or 100Kmiles
>
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> >
> > Peter H
 
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