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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2004Honda Civic -- able to convert to bio-diesal?
Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a hybrid/alt-fuel/bio-diesel car. Anyone know if this is possible? And if so, how much it would cost? Is there some sort of converter that you can install? I've been hunting the Web sites, but I'm not finding much. Thanks for any help.  Signature------------------------------- remove "smooth" from my yahoo.com address. Unless that civic was a diesel, and I have never heard of any diesel Hondas, then the answer is no you cannot convert.. > Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got > another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks for any help. If you put in a diesel engine from another car then you can run bio diesel in it. > Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got > another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks for any help. What about any other type of alt-fuel? Propane? Natural gas? Or is this just swimming up a creek? Thanks for the quick reply. Signature------------------------------- remove "smooth" from my yahoo.com address. > If you put in a diesel engine from another car then you can run bio diesel > in it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Thanks for any help. > What about any other type of alt-fuel? Propane? Natural gas? Or is this just > swimming up a creek? Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, a Honda Civic could be converted to run on natural gas, but it would be a whole lot easier, cheaper, and more reliable to buy one that's configured at the factory to run on it. See here: http://www.hondacars.com/models/civic_gx_bonus.asp Or if you want to buy one used, there are several websites that sell used natural gas vehicles. Todd. > Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got > another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks for any help. Unless you are rich, don't even try it. The expense involved would be really high. I advise you to trade the 96 Honda Civic in on a vehicle that runs the type of fuel that you want to use. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got >> another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >really high. I advise you to trade the 96 Honda Civic in on a vehicle that >runs the type of fuel that you want to use. The real question, hmc, is what do you want to accomplish? Unless you are a formal or amateur student of mechanical engineering who wants a project, converting this car to run on anything other than gasoline probably doesn't make sense. Unless you drive a lot of miles, your cheapest route is just to keep driving you old car. If you are concerned about the environment, bio diesel may not be the best choice. It is unlikely to be as clean as a Honda ULEV engine and we may soon reach capacity from french fry oil in which case it may end up burning mostly petro-diesel. For the price of converting your eight year old car you could buy a brand new Prius or Civic Hybrid. OTOH if you are just cheap and drive a lot of miles and have a convenient source of free veggie oil, buy the used diesel VW and go for it. Beware though that some people find VW ownership to be incompatible with frugality. >Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got >another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a >hybrid/alt-fuel/bio-diesel car. Anyone know if this is possible? And if so, >how much it would cost? Is there some sort of converter that you can >install? I've been hunting the Web sites, but I'm not finding much. Why would you want to do that? If it's as an interesting engineering project exercise, it's been done umpteen times in the .edu world. If it's to satisfy some "green" urge, forget it - alternate bio-fuels are just another political fraud. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? > alternate bio-fuels are just > another political fraud. French-fry oil is a perfectly valid fuel. No fraud about that. >> alternate bio-fuels are just >> another political fraud. > >French-fry oil is a perfectly valid fuel. No fraud about that. The scale is all wrong for distribution as a fuel - a waste of time and may need adjustments to diesel engines' fuel delivery and storage. Many cooking oils also gum and lacquer very badly at even moderate temps. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? > The scale is all wrong for distribution as a fuel - a waste of time and may > need adjustments to diesel engines' fuel delivery and storage. Many > cooking oils also gum and lacquer very badly at even moderate temps. Oh, but they are said to smell ever so good! Some city north of San Francisco, CA converted their garbage truck fleet to bio-diesel. There are storage issues, and filtering issues, but the combination of "free" fuel, and pulling the oil out of the recycling stream makes it viable, although at a financial loss compared to normal diesel. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5 >>Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got >>another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to satisfy some "green" urge, forget it - alternate bio-fuels are just > another political fraud. tell that to the guy that runs his car off old fry oil from fast food joints. its legit, but the tinkering and crap involved to me wouldnt be worth it. btw- best bet would be to sell the civic, and get an old diesel rabbit. theyre a dime a dozen, junkyards are full of em, and it would be the ideal candidate for the tinkering, since its already designed to burn oil. newer VWs burn oil regardless :) You would be well advised to start with a diesel engine car if you want to run bio-diesel. As far as DIY alternative fuel conversions ..... the state of the art is not up to anything you would call competititve with as built automobiles. John >Hi, I'm new to this group. I have an old (96) Honda Civic LX. I just got >another car, and I was thinking that I would convert my Civic into a >hybrid/alt-fuel/bio-diesel car. Anyone know if this is possible? You'd need to put a diesel engine in the car to run it on biodiesel. Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
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