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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2004seeking advice from Honda mechanic
I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, I need your advice. I noticed that my front right tire had almost no tread. I checked the air pressure in all of the tires and it was the same. I purchased two new front tires. The young person that replaced the tires told me that I needed to have the alignment reset. I plan to do that at the Honda dealership since the young person did not seem like he knew much about tires and tire related problems. I had him check the tread on the front tires and these are results cupping feathering on tire that had almost no tread 0/32 on inside tread 1/32 on center area of tire 5/32 on outside tread All other tires were normal. Are there any parts that need to be replaced. I am going to have all of the wheels aligned in about one week.  SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems > and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Are there any parts that need to be replaced. I am going to have all of > the wheels aligned in about one week. If you take your car to get align, take it to Firestone. For 150.00, you can have your car aligned for the life of the tires. I take mine back every 5k miles, and it is no charge, I just paid the initial fee. > > I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems > > and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > can have your car aligned for the life of the tires. I take mine back > every 5k miles, and it is no charge, I just paid the initial fee. That sounds like a great deal. I call them. I just hope that they don't have a lot of young college students working there that care more about their plans for the weekend or their next exam than they care about their jobs. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >>>I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems >>>and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > their plans for the weekend or their next exam than they care about their > jobs. It just depends, but my locla firestone has decent guys doing the work. The only thing I don't let them do is remove my tires, they use air tools to install tires, and I am afraid they will over tight my wheels. I rotate the tires my self then take it to them to have it aligned. > >>>I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems > >>>and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > tools to install tires, and I am afraid they will over tight my wheels. > I rotate the tires my self then take it to them to have it aligned. Just make sure they use the torque chart and the specified torque bar extension. Dave M. >> > I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems >> > and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >their plans for the weekend or their next exam than they care about their >jobs. You are so oblivious for so long you did not notice your alignment is _so_ out of whack one front tire is severely worn (it sounds like your camber is incredibly positive), and your greatest concern is that the poor bastard who is going to have to check and try to reset your front end, and deal with your incredible obtuseness, is a career wage slave? Take it to a dealer, quietly and kindly pay them what they ask. > >> > I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems > >> > and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Take it to a dealer, quietly and kindly pay them what they ask. You are right. I should have noticed it several weeks ago when I made sure the air pressure was correct in all of the tires. I only looked at the treads on one of the front tires and it was the wrong one. Next time--I'll check the tread on all of the tires everytime I check the air pressure. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> >> > I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems >> >> > and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >treads on one of the front tires and it was the wrong one. Next time--I'll >check the tread on all of the tires everytime I check the air pressure. A very good idea; if the pressures are off there's a very good chance of anomalous wear. On 8/17/04 11:01 AM, in article Jason-1708040901420001@pm2-broad-190.snlo.dialup.fix.net, "Jason" > I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems > and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Are there any parts that need to be replaced. I am going to have all of > the wheels aligned in about one week. You definitely need an alignment. The dealership is a reasonable place to start. I think you will find other damage or failed parts in the right front as well. If they tell you they can't fix it, then your next stop should be a frame shop. Many times they can simply bend things back into spec (and generally charge less than the dealer will for an alignment). If you decide to use one of the tire store places (Firestone, Goodyear, etc.) get some recommendations from your friends first. These places can be hit or miss quality wise. I don't know what the hell the other posting is doing taking his car in every 5000 miles. That is completely absurd. Only somebody that has some type of compulsive disorder would do that. There is no auto technician in the world, or shop, or dealership that would suggest having an alignment done or checked every 5000 miles. It would be like getting a physical every couple months. You would be labeled a hypochondriac. I did just get my eyes dilated after an eye exam and I am having trouble seeing so perhaps the other poster said 50,000 miles. He wouldn't be as nucking futs then but still a little odd. Your tire wear is definitely alignment related. Your cupping of the tires is suspension related as in the struts/shocks need to be replaced. Most people never pay any attention to their suspension unless something breaks. Well struts usually don't break they just wear out. Your cupping is an obvious sign of worn-out struts. Get them replaced and then align the car. You shouldn't need an alignment again unless you hit something or your tires are wearing in a pattern that suggests you need an alignment. Take it to the Honda dealer for about$60. That will give you a 4 wheel alignment that your car probably needs. You didn't mention what car you had but I think I've hit the nail on the head. From a previous ASE certified Master Auto Technician, ASE certified Heavy Truck Technician, and a graduate of Universal Technical Institute's Automotive/Diesel technology program CaptainKrunch > I am a backyard mechanic but know nothing about alignment related problems > and about problems related to the parts that effect alignment. Therefore, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Are there any parts that need to be replaced. I am going to have all of > the wheels aligned in about one week. > I don't know what the hell the other posting is doing taking his car in > every 5000 miles. That is completely absurd. Only somebody that has some [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >>Are there any parts that need to be replaced. I am going to have all of >>the wheels aligned in about one week. Well CK, I'm sorry if I offended you about taking my car so often. I paid for the service and I take advantage of it. It takes 30 min or less, and it cost me no more. Firestone is the one who suggested to bring it back at that mileage; if I am late they remind me to bring it back as close to the 5k as possible. Belive it or not, everytime it needs and adjustment, so I don't care. I can tell you my car always runs fine, and my tires after 40K miles have about half of the thread left, and is wearing perfectly. I gave the guy an advise, and everybody is free to take it on consideration or just ignore it, no big deal. > > Your tire wear is definitely alignment related. Your cupping of the tires > > is suspension related as in the struts/shocks need to be replaced. Most [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > > CaptainKrunch waht kind of tires? toyo's will cup on a honda all the time. i see it every day. some tires just don't fare well on a honda. you do need a 4 wheel alignment though. as part of an alignment they should be checking all suspension components anyway. from an ASE master tech, and a Honda gold level tech. Chip > > > Your tire wear is definitely alignment related. Your cupping of the tires > > > is suspension related as in the struts/shocks need to be replaced. Most [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > from an ASE master tech, and a Honda gold level tech. > Chip I plan to take it to a Honda dealership in a couple of weeks. I'll have them check remove all of the wheels and check all suspension conponents. Since the tires on the rear of the 1999 Honda Accord were in perfect condition--if I replaced the front struts--should the struts on the rear also be replaced. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > waht kind of tires? toyo's will cup on a honda all the time. >i see it every day. some tires just don't fare well on a honda. ...Care to explain that, please? I've never heard such a thing. > > waht kind of tires? toyo's will cup on a honda all the time. > >i see it every day. some tires just don't fare well on a honda. > > ...Care to explain that, please? > > I've never heard such a thing. toyo spectrums cup bad if not rotated every 3000 miles, they are the worst. I see it every day but again i do 20+ cars a day. Chip >> > waht kind of tires? toyo's will cup on a honda all the time. >> >i see it every day. some tires just don't fare well on a honda. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >toyo spectrums cup bad if not rotated every 3000 miles, they are the >worst. I see it every day but again i do 20+ cars a day. ...I'll try again: Can you explain that, please? "> >toyo spectrums cup bad if not rotated every 3000 miles, they are the > >worst. I see it every day but again i do 20+ cars a day. > > ...I'll try again: Can you explain that, please? i'll try again, they cup badly!! what should i explain? that it's a crappy tire? cordovans are right up there too. look like a wash board after 5000 miles. Chip >"> >toyo spectrums cup bad if not rotated every 3000 miles, they are >the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >crappy tire? cordovans are right up there too. look like a wash board >after 5000 miles. Third time's the charm? How do you explain your assertion that Toyo tires specifically "cup", a rather specific term, on Hondas; more than on other cars and more than other brands? _HOW?_ What is the mechanism, the physical interactions - the physics and chemistry, underlying your rather specious conclusion? ...You can say "Toyo's cup badly" all you want, but it means nothing if you won't or can't describe the process that leads to your assertion. > > I don't know what the hell the other posting is doing taking his car in > > every 5000 miles. That is completely absurd. Only somebody that has some [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > I gave the guy an advise, and everybody is free to take it on > consideration or just ignore it, no big deal. Bad news--there are no Firestone dealers in my town and I called several stores that sell tires and they all said that they don't offer such deals. They said that they were not cost effective since many people expected them to test the alignment much more than once per year. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >>> I don't know what the hell the other posting is doing taking his car in >>> every 5000 miles. That is completely absurd. Only somebody that has some [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > They said that they were not cost effective since many people expected > them to test the alignment much more than once per year. I heard that SEARS also offers an unlimited alignment plan. check into it. > >>> I don't know what the hell the other posting is doing taking his car in > >>> every 5000 miles. That is completely absurd. Only somebody that has some [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > I heard that SEARS also offers an unlimited alignment plan. check into it. Thanks for the advice. However, at the local Sears store, they have some staff members that don't seem to know what they are doing. I heard the guy at the desk tell several customers to go to one of the local tire stores. I went to the bays where they repair cars and noticed two employees taking a break and no one working on the only car in the bay. They probably get paid the same whether they service 20 cars during their shift or only 5 cars. This is also true for the guy at the counter and he might be involved in some sort of plan with the workers to reduce the work load by referring customers to local tire stores. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >> I heard that SEARS also offers an unlimited alignment plan. check into it. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >involved in some sort of plan with the workers to reduce the work load by >referring customers to local tire stores. Man! ...But you *are* one paranoid little twitch. >>> I heard that SEARS also offers an unlimited alignment plan. check into it. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Man! ...But you *are* one paranoid little twitch. hahahhahahahahahaha....sorry, but that was hilarious jason. i'm a picky man, but you sir, have just taken the cake. see F2004, it's not paranoia if they're really after you. >>>> I heard that SEARS also offers an unlimited alignment plan. check >>>> into it. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > see F2004, it's not paranoia if they're really after you. Sears Canada has announced the closing of their tire and service shops and are converting them to hardware stores. The one in my locality has aready closed up. Was getting free rotation there on the last tires I bought. Obviously they are now dishounouring that perk. Mike In article <NBlWc.48808$UYx.25626@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, > >>>> I heard that SEARS also offers an unlimited alignment plan. check > >>>> into it. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Mike Mike, That does not shock me. The bays at the local Sears store are usually empty or only have one car in the bay that is designed for about 6 cars. They only have two employees working in the bay and they are NOT mechanics. They can change tires, balance tires and install batteries. That's about all they can do. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > Sears Canada has announced the closing of their tire and service shops and > are converting them to hardware stores. My local one has changed to another company, but still tires and service. > I don't know what the hell the other posting is doing taking his car in > every 5000 miles. That is completely absurd. Only somebody that has some [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > CaptainKrunch > > Are there any parts that need to be replaced. I am going to have all of > > the wheels aligned in about one week. Do I need to replace all the stuts or just the ones on the front wheels? I have a 1999 Honda Accord Sedan EX (4 cyld.) SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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