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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2004Honda Coolant??
Hi guys, I went down to the dealership today like a good boy and asked for Honda Coolant. They asked if I was 'Type 1' or 'Type 2'. I had no idea, so I told them I have a 98 Civic LX. They said 'OK you are Type 2' and gave me NAPA coolant. I asked 'Why the difference??' and they said that the newer models were supposed to use Type 2, which is Honda Premix, but that in my car I didn't need that. The NAPA fluid is has low (or no) silicate, and is phosphate free, so I guess it'll do the trick. Any comments though? t Go with the pre mix as I did because my dealer said thats all they carry anymore. Its great no more mixing with hard water. Tom > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > t "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:z4wVc.507$YJ4.6555 @news.uswest.net: > Go with the pre mix as I did because my dealer said thats all they carry > anymore. Its great no more mixing with hard water. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> t Yeah, and it only costs 4x much really? 4x Cdn tire coolant $10 Honda Coolant $15 Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended. Chris > really? 4x > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Chris Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda" antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone brand, are pretty low. > _chris_ wrote: > > really? 4x [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > specifications are much different from, say a Prestone brand, are pretty > low. Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as possible. The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from Prestone is, IMO, pretty high. This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own experience with green Prestone. I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd call an extremely thorough flush) and all's well. I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze. >> _chris_ wrote: >>> really? 4x [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at > night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze. Unless someone can show me that: 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other industry standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils) I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a minimum standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to. Honda oil is probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........ I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze. On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote: >>> _chris_ wrote: >>>> really? 4x [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze. Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction by using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt remaining. I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars on a machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's recommendations for maintaining it. > On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L > Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > on a machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's > recommendations for maintaining it. There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump fail. Again, if you wish to pay more for the same basic thing to feel better about it, it is a free country. The perception of a benefit is not enough for me. > There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the > past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump fail. 30 years of Hondas? >> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though >> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a >> water pump fail. > > 30 years of Hondas? The majority of them Honda or Toyota. > >> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though > >> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The majority of them Honda or Toyota. So..."No." thanks! >>>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though >>>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > thanks! Now that made a lot of sense.....I have 3 Hondas right now, and have owned a total of 7 of them over the years. How many have you had? > >>>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though > >>>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Now that made a lot of sense So, 30 years of Hondas? >>>>>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though >>>>>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > So, 30 years of Hondas? "30+ years of driving" is the statement. There cheap a.ses. They step over dollars to pick up dimes. Tom > On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L Alpert" > <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's recommendations for > maintaining it. Ditto Tom >> _chris_ wrote: >> > really? 4x [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > night pay > the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze. > really? 4x > > Cdn tire coolant $10 > Honda Coolant $15 My local dealer has Honda premix for $12.78/gal. Eric Honda anti freeze (pre-mix) my dealer $10. Tom >> really? 4x >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eric "_chris_" <chris_farr@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:OTJVc.39259$Tr.1976462 @news20.bellglobal.com: > really? 4x > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Chris Yes, but the honda coolant has water in it already so it's diluted...is the cdn tire coolant diluted? I'm sure you could buy pre-mix Canadian Tire coolant. I don't know. I only used Honda Coolant in my 90 Civic HB that I had and my 00 Civic SiR. The only stuff I buy for my Honda at Cdn Tire is Oil (Mobil 1) 5w30, and Car wax. I only use OEM parts. MTF fluid.. recommended - Honda Coolant $14.xx ish from Honda (pre-mix). I'm a auto-tech and I much prefer pre-mix over the straight stuff. Then again $5 Cdn savings over WHAT is recommend vs. possible warranty voiding store brand. If you go through a lot of coolant then maybe there's another problem. I've only have to use maybe about 1/8 of my pre-mix stuff on my civic in 20,000km Sure with older DSM (Ford, GM, other) any coolant meeting Manu. specs should be ok. Now with ATF fluid there's a whole bunch of types under the sun. IE Ford has there own type, etc I've seen a few dead water pumps in Hondas when the owner uses whatever the cheapest on the market. > "_chris_" <chris_farr@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:OTJVc.39259$Tr.1976462 > @news20.bellglobal.com: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Yes, but the honda coolant has water in it already so it's diluted...is the > cdn tire coolant diluted? > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Any comments though? ======================= Just don't dilute it with anything other than distilled or Reverse Osmosis water. Tap water eats stuff when heated above boiling. 'Curly' |
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