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Car Forum / Honda Cars / October 2004Speed Sensor VSS for Honda CIVIC 93: Please help
My speedometer is not working. Engine light turns on after couple of minutes drive. I am assuming VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) went bad. Can anybody please tell me where VSS located in Honda 93, CIVIC, LX sedan. I am very novice and never worked on a car. However, I am not in a condition to spend money beyond the parts cost now. If any of you could tell me how can I locate my exisiting VSS and replace with a good one. I call a dealer, they ask for $116 which I will buy after making sure that this is really because of VSS. I know the ECL code for VSS 17 and will make sure this today. I would really appreciate if you could describe how could I locate the VSS, replace it by a new one. Thanks in Advance.. > My speedometer is not working. Engine light turns on after couple of > minutes drive. I am assuming VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) went bad. Can [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks in Advance.. Try here http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/ The VSS is located on the transmission, see http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/23-a122.pdf for an up-close drawing that doesn't really tell you where it is located. There is also a drawing at http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/13-4.pdf that shows a larger, less detailed view. Before replacing the VSS, check that fuse # 24 (#12 if you do not have air bags) is intact, as this is the fuse that feeds power to the VSS. > My speedometer is not working. Engine light turns on after couple of > minutes drive. I am assuming VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) went bad. Can [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks in Advance.. > The VSS is located on the transmission, see > http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/23-a122.pdf for an up-close > drawing that doesn't really tell you where it is located. There is also > a drawing at http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/13-4.pdf that > shows a larger, less detailed view. And if it is an automatic, check http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/14-3.pdf and page 14-59 at http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/14-58.pdf Thanks both of you. You guys are so helpful. I appreciated it. I am able to locate VSS. Randolph my car has driver side airbag only. I will check both fuse 12 and 24. Now, I need more help. 1)How can I verify the engine check light ECL for Honda CIVIC 93, LX. 2)Where is the service connector located. By service connector I mean the jack you need to use to test ECU code. I heard under the hood,I also heard under the dash board on passenger side. I look in both places, did not find any. 3)If you guys know the location or if you guys have any graphics for that, could you please post it here. Before, I start changing VSS. 4)Regarding VSS, can this happen that 3 wires that coming to the 3 pin connector on VSS is broken or torn off. I couldn't verify this as it is covered by tap/something? How do I verify that? I would appreciate your answer Thanks > > The VSS is located on the transmission, see > > http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/23-a122.pdf for an up-close [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/14-3.pdf and page 14-59 at > http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/14-58.pdf > Thanks both of you. You guys are so helpful. I appreciated it. > I am able to locate VSS. Randolph my car has driver side airbag only. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/14-3.pdf and page 14-59 at >> http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/14-58.pdf Try here http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/ If you find the manual for your car, you can look up anything you want. <snip> > Now, I need more help. > 1)How can I verify the engine check light ECL for Honda CIVIC 93, LX. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 3)If you guys know the location or if you guys have any graphics for > that, could you please post it here. Before, I start changing VSS. There is a service check connector located under the dash. Look in front of the passenger side door jamb. The carpet goes up the side panel, and behind the carpet is the ECU. A few inches above the ECU you will find the service check connector taped to a wire harness. There should be a two position service check connector and a 3 position data link connector. You want the two position one. Short the two positions together with a paper clip bent into a U shape and turn on the ignition. The MIL (check engine light) in the instrument panel will flash the code as a sequence of short and possibly long flashes. Short flashes are the 1's and long flashes are the 10's. There is a drawing at http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/11-14.pdf. You do not need the "SCS Short connector", a paper clip works just as well. > 4)Regarding VSS, can this happen that 3 wires that coming to the 3 pin > connector on VSS is broken or torn off. I couldn't verify this as it > is covered by tap/something? How do I verify that? Could be. A break in either one of these wires would cause the VSS not to work. Page 23-140 of the service manual available at http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/ shows how to check the integrity of the wiring to the VSS. And to save you some trouble, page 23-140 is page 1080 (of 1258) in the .pdf document. The VSS is located on the top of the transaxle to the rear of the engine compartment, look under and to the right of the battey. It has a three wire plug that sticks straight up. You can test it if you have a volt meter. I would recommend getting a repair manual from Auto Zone or your local parts store (should cost about 20.00) and follow the steps to check the VSS. This may save you some money. Although the cost of 116.00 seems pretty good because I priced one for mine and it was 280.00. Turns out mine was only a bad contact in the plug. Good Luck! > My speedometer is not working. Engine light turns on after couple of > minutes drive. I am assuming VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) went bad. Can [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks in Advance.. The VSS is located on the top of the transaxle to the rear of the engine compartment, look under and to the right of the battey. It has a three wire plug that sticks straight up. You can test it if you have a volt meter. I would recommend getting a repair manual from Auto Zone or your local parts store (should cost about 20.00) and follow the steps to check the VSS. This may save you some money. Although the cost of 116.00 seems pretty good because I priced one for mine and it was 280.00. Turns out mine was only a bad contact in the plug. Good Luck! > My speedometer is not working. Engine light turns on after couple of > minutes drive. I am assuming VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) went bad. Can [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks in Advance.. Thanks you everybody for the help. I think I have found the service connector. I just want to verify one more time. Both service connector (2 pins) and data link connector (3 pins) where inside a green rubber cover just little below the glove box on the right side. As it was not dangling rather sticked inside a well fitted green cover, I never thought about this. Can you guys confirm me that I found service connector not anything else on Honda CIVIC 93, LX sedan. After you guys confirm me I am going to perform the testing. If it shows code 17, I am sure something wrong with VSS. If 17, I will make sure that connection with VSS is also good. Previous post have suggested to test it by voltmeter according to manual. I have the manual and did not find anything about testing the connection of VSS. Can you guys suggest how could I verify that wiring/connection of 3 pin VSS is good by voltmeter?? After I perform that and find nothing wrong, I will get a new VSS/used VSS and replace the old one. Replacing should be fairley easy. If the problem still persist, I am screwed ;))... > The VSS is located on the top of the transaxle to the rear of the engine > compartment, look under and to the right of the battey. It has a three wire [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > > > Thanks in Advance.. > Thanks you everybody for the help. I think I have found the service > connector. I just want to verify one more time. Both service connector [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > thought about this. Can you guys confirm me that I found service > connector not anything else on Honda CIVIC 93, LX sedan. I think you found it. See http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph/Civic/civic_info.html for a photo of a '94 Civic SCC and DLC. > After you guys confirm me I am going to perform the testing. If it > shows code 17, I am sure something wrong with VSS. If 17, I will make [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Can you guys suggest how could I verify that wiring/connection of 3 > pin VSS is good by voltmeter?? The VSS is mentioned both under Fuel System and Electrical System in the '94 service manual. I have never seen the '93 manual. Testing at the VSS connector is described in the Electrical section of the manual, page 23-140 (or 1080 of 1258) at http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/USDM_92-95_civic.zip. > After I perform that and find nothing wrong, I will get a new VSS/used > VSS and replace the old one. Replacing should be fairley easy. If the > problem still persist, I am screwed ;))... Looks simple. Just heed the warning about the small drive link that is easy to loose. |
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