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Car Forum / Honda Cars / October 2004

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'04 Accord recall

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eskimo - 07 Oct 2004 04:21 GMT
How many people got the auto transmission recall?  Sounds pretty serious -
like the tranny will seize in some cases, causing loss of control.

For mine, they're supposed to put in an oil injector - sounds like a
somewhat major recall.
L Alpert - 07 Oct 2004 06:48 GMT
> How many people got the auto transmission recall?  Sounds pretty
> serious - like the tranny will seize in some cases, causing loss of
> control.
>
> For mine, they're supposed to put in an oil injector - sounds like a
> somewhat major recall.

Got mine this week.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 07 Oct 2004 11:04 GMT
> How many people got the auto transmission recall?  Sounds pretty serious -
> like the tranny will seize in some cases, causing loss of control.
>
> For mine, they're supposed to put in an oil injector - sounds like a
> somewhat major recall.

No, it's not major at all.   The oil injector kit simply routes an
external oil line back to the oil fill hole that normall has a bolt on
it.  Right underneath that hole is a gear which isn't being cooled
properly with oil; now, oil will be squirting on that gear as part of
the normal oil circulation.

The entire inspection of the gear (to make sure it isn't already heat
damaged) and installation of the oil jet kit takes no more than an hour,
on a bad day.

It is a major recall, though; Honda is spending something like $360
million on this.  If the gear inspection (done by camera) shows heat
damage, they send the photos back to Honda.  Honda determines whether to
send the dealer an oil jet kit (the gear is OK) or a transmission (the
gear isn't OK).  The dealer tech makes a gross judgment, based on photos
that Honda supplies; if there's a question, the dealership doesn't make
the determination.  Honda does.
Matthew - 08 Oct 2004 02:56 GMT
After the nonsense with the '98-'02 Accord tranny's they STILL can't get it
right. Makes you wonder...

> > How many people got the auto transmission recall?  Sounds pretty serious -
> > like the tranny will seize in some cases, causing loss of control.
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> that Honda supplies; if there's a question, the dealership doesn't make
> the determination.  Honda does.
Howard - 08 Oct 2004 02:58 GMT
What Elmo says is all correct, except one thing. There is no waiting for
parts. Dealers have (or should have) the kits on hand.
Honda sent out an initial allocation to each dealer depending on their
volume of sales and then sends an additional kit each time a warranty claim
is filed for each one a dealer does.

> > How many people got the auto transmission recall?  Sounds pretty serious -
> > like the tranny will seize in some cases, causing loss of control.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> that Honda supplies; if there's a question, the dealership doesn't make
> the determination.  Honda does.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 08 Oct 2004 11:50 GMT
> What Elmo says is all correct, except one thing. There is no waiting for
> parts.

The process is that if the camera inspection shows even the slightest
bit of damage, the local tech passes the buck on to Honda.  He emails
the photos to Honda, who makes the decision on what to send:  either an
oil jet kit or a transmission.

If the local tech can see that the transmission matches Honda's
reference photo for "no damage whatsoever," the tech simply puts the oil
jet kit in right then and there.  But any damage at all means a wait for
Honda to decide what to do, and Honda sends the part it thinks is needed
to make the repair--be it the jet kit or a new tranny.
king a.s - 08 Oct 2004 06:35 GMT
Honda no good now,dont buy.
Brian Smith - 08 Oct 2004 13:19 GMT
> Honda no good now,dont buy.

Your name says it all.
 
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