What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
4-cylinders, as compared to a V-6 or V-8 Camaro? You guys must like
getting burned- and what is the deal with reving your little 4-cylinder
engines at stop lights? Are trying to sound impressive or are you just
trying to keep your engine running? By the way, just in case, you DIDN'T
know, adding some stickers and a spoiler to your car DOESN'T qualify as
a "performance upgrade" in any way- all it REALLY does, however, is give
everyone a good laugh whenever they see your joke of a car on the
street.
LONG LIVE THE CAMARO
alt.autos.camaro
test - 19 Oct 2004 16:19 GMT
Okay Mr. Camaro guy. The stickers that they have on their car are probably
performance upgrades under the hood so they are relevant u dumb a.s. If
they're not then u are okay to assume that the Honda belongs to some
wanna-be poser. But I hope u know that the fastest Civic ran below a 10
second in the quarter mile?? I believe it was somewhere around 7 seconds.
Which is I believe around where ur Camaro runs... so watch ur mouth and get
ur facts straight before ever confronting the import scene again, Mr. Potato
Head.
> What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
> Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
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>
> alt.autos.camaro
lamont1 - 19 Oct 2004 16:42 GMT
i saw a civic beat a dodge viper in a race once.
I would also like to say that calling honda's rice cars is racist.
Randolph - 19 Oct 2004 21:41 GMT
lament wrote:
> I would also like to say that calling honda's rice cars is racist.
Don't you mean "richest"?
Randolph - 19 Oct 2004 21:50 GMT
> lament wrote:
>
> > I would also like to say that calling honda's rice cars is racist.
>
> Don't you mean "richest"?
Damn spell checker ruined a bad joke. I meant of course to write
"ricist"
Grumpy au Contraire - 20 Oct 2004 01:01 GMT
> > lament wrote:
> >
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> Damn spell checker ruined a bad joke. I meant of course to write
> "ricist"
The best efforts of mice 'n men are often easily foiled...
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manic mechanic - 20 Oct 2004 00:16 GMT
> i saw a civic beat a dodge viper in a race once.
> I would also like to say that calling honda's rice cars is racist.
and ive seen the shadow people, but i usually dont go about
stating this observation.
Eightupman - 22 Oct 2004 01:40 GMT
WHAT...they don't run on rice???
> i saw a civic beat a dodge viper in a race once.
> I would also like to say that calling honda's rice cars is racist.
98' Camaro - 24 Oct 2004 05:44 GMT
I would also like to say, what does a Dodge Viper have to do with
anything? I am referring to a Honda vs. a Camaro (of any model- stock or
not.) About the term "rice car" being "racist-" I ask you to remember,
that racism generally refers to the races (as in black and white- just
in case, you didn't know)- not to vehicles.
"Right is right, and right always wins."
manic mechanic - 24 Oct 2004 11:26 GMT
> About the term "rice car" being "racist-" I ask you to remember,
> that racism generally refers to the races (as in black and white- just
> in case, you didn't know)- not to vehicles.
we are all members of the human race and we better damn well start treating
each other as such or this whole gig's gonna go up in smoke yielding yet
another victory for the shadow people.
> "Right is right, and right always wins."
...sounds like something W could put into his new song "highway to baghdad"
by GB/DC sung to the tune "highway to hell" by AC/DC.
DragonRider - 19 Oct 2004 17:10 GMT
>What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
>Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
>4-cylinders, as compared to a V-6 or V-8 Camaro?
When an Accord comes with 240hp and the V6 camaro around 200... Hmm..
Wait, the V8 only has another 40hp or so over that.. <rofl>
>LONG LIVE THE CAMARO
Uhmm.. Dipshit troll person? The Camaro lost the pony wars and is
belly up. That's right. It's gone. Just run right out there and try to
buy a new one. A few leftover V6 rental cars but that's it. When's the
last time you saw a Honda in a rental fleet? They don't do that.
<rofl>
Eightupman - 22 Oct 2004 01:46 GMT
> >What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
> >Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
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> last time you saw a Honda in a rental fleet? They don't do that.
> <rofl>
HUmmm, that would be 2001.....Honda Accord.....I do belive it was
Alamo.............but can't be sure about that.......I was rather amazed
that they offered Hondas. But I guess that's what they mean by "or similar"
bob - 19 Oct 2004 20:10 GMT
yawn.
I pass camaro's all the time in my wimpy cr-v. They are up on lifts, jacks,
junkyards, on blocks, etc.. Yep, got to love those camaro's, they can pass
anything on the street except a service station.
> What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
> Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
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>
> alt.autos.camaro
C B George - 19 Oct 2004 23:52 GMT
Beat me to the punch Bob. I was going to comment on how few Hondas I see on
the side of the road versus how many GM products I see on the side of the
road.
C B
> yawn.
>
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>> alt.autos.camaro
Grumpy au Contraire - 20 Oct 2004 01:05 GMT
Camaros turned into doo doo in the mid 1970's and everything since then
produced by GM followed suite...
JT
(Who owns five American cars but they are all Studebakers)
1931 Studebaker President State Coupe (Q4)
1955 Studebaker President State Coupe
1955 Studebaker President State Sedan - Almost done Daily Driver
1956 Studebaker Power Hawk - Long Time Fun Car - (Will be burial
container)
1964 Studebaker Champ P/U T-6 Long Bed - Daily driver
1983 Honda Civic FE Project
1956 Leica M2
> Beat me to the punch Bob. I was going to comment on how few Hondas I see on
> the side of the road versus how many GM products I see on the side of the
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> >>
> >> alt.autos.camaro
L Alpert - 20 Oct 2004 01:58 GMT
> What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
> Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
> 4-cylinders, as compared to a V-6 or V-8 Camaro?
Sure, with my V6 Honda.
You guys must like
> getting burned- and what is the deal with reving your little
> 4-cylinder engines at stop lights? Are trying to sound impressive or
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>
> alt.autos.camaro
A dying breed.
Long live the Rambler American Classic.
DragonRider - 20 Oct 2004 14:54 GMT
>> LONG LIVE THE CAMARO
>>
>> alt.autos.camaro
>
>A dying breed.
Dying? Last time I checked it was a DEAD breed! Just try to go out and
buy a brand new '05 Camaro and you'll see just how dead that breed
became.
At leas the new Pony Wars have much better cars: Evolution Vs. STi
Grumpy au Contraire - 20 Oct 2004 18:35 GMT
> >> LONG LIVE THE CAMARO
> >>
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>
> At leas the new Pony Wars have much better cars: Evolution Vs. STi
I would take issue in that the original Camaro was a better
designed/built vehicle than the Mustang. I just could have not a bit of
respect for any vehicle that incorporated the trunk floor as the top of
the gas tank...
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DragonRider - 20 Oct 2004 20:02 GMT
>I would take issue in that the original Camaro was a better
>designed/built vehicle than the Mustang. I just could have not a bit of
>respect for any vehicle that incorporated the trunk floor as the top of
>the gas tank...
I figure there were a number of reasons the Mustang beat it. These
included ease of getting in and out as well as outward visibility. The
smaller overall size (real or imagined) and real storage area. One
might recall that the majority of Mustangs were V6's and that of those
the bulk went to ladies as owners and the rest to rental fleets. The
Camaro may have been faster, and it may have done some things better,
but in day to day use it fell short and the lack of sales reflected
that.
Grumpy au Contraire - 21 Oct 2004 01:04 GMT
> >I would take issue in that the original Camaro was a better
> >designed/built vehicle than the Mustang. I just could have not a bit of
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> but in day to day use it fell short and the lack of sales reflected
> that.
Uh, I don't think that V6's were a factor in the 1960's or a good
portion of the 1970's for that matter...

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DragonRider - 21 Oct 2004 05:16 GMT
>> >I would take issue in that the original Camaro was a better
>> >designed/built vehicle than the Mustang. I just could have not a bit of
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>Uh, I don't think that V6's were a factor in the 1960's or a good
>portion of the 1970's for that matter...
In the 60's and 70's there were still Camaro's.. ;) In the '60's there
were still Camaro's worth buying!
Nobody - 20 Oct 2004 02:42 GMT
icruzn@webtv.net (98' Camaro) wrote in news:24278-4174BC80-301@storefull-
3178.bay.webtv.net:
> What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
> Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
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>
> alt.autos.camaro
HEY, GREASEBALL, you have NO idea what a 'Powered by Honda' sticker does
for performance, so WATCH OUT!
Cosmin N. - 20 Oct 2004 06:13 GMT
Here's what an idiot decided to post on alt.autos.honda. I've never read
or posted on the camaro newsgroup, nor will I likely do it again, but
will you please keep your trolls in their cage?
The Camaro newsgroup can be trolled as well, and to quote someone from
the Honda newsgroup, "I pass camaro's all the time in my wimpy cr-v.
They are up on lifts, jacks, junkyards, on blocks, etc.. Yep, got to
love those camaro's, they can pass anything on the street except a
service station."
Cosmin
> What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
> Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
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>
> alt.autos.camaro
Cosmin N. - 20 Oct 2004 06:15 GMT
In case you guys are wondering, I posted that message in
alt.autos.camaro to see what those people think when they're being trolled.
Cosmin
K-town - 22 Oct 2004 02:57 GMT
Hate to bust your bubble, ph3w1, but I know a guy who juiced up his "wimpy"
4-cylinder Honda Civic to where it was putting out 300hp AT THE WHEELS!
Last time I checked, a 1998 Camaro Z28 only had about 285-300hp, AT THE
ENGINE. Then, you factor in the HUGE difference of the power-to-weight
ratio, and I'm sure that 300hp Civic could dust any Camaro, anytime, any
place. Also, as noted by another poster in this NG, Camaros are NOT known
for their reliability. They tend to fall apart around 80,000 miles, if not
less. My 1990 Civic has 190,000 miles, purrs like a kitten, uses almost no
oil, and is still going strong, even though I drive it very aggressively.
I've never seen, or even heard of a Camaro reaching that many miles without
having to have a complete overhaul on virtually all major parts, even under
NORMAL driving conditions. (Engine, transmission, clutch, etc.) I'm sure
you and everyone knows what FORD stands for (Fixed Or Repaired Daily; Found
On Road Dead, etc) but let me tell you what CHEVROLET stands for:
Cracked Head Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Every Time
If you want a REAL race car, buy an Acura NSX and witness the
awesome power of Honda muscle...that is, if you can afford it after wasting
all your money on trying to keep your precious piece-o-crap Camaro from
falling apart.
An Acura NSX possesses a 3.2L V6 that pumps out 290hp WITHOUT turbo or
supercharging. Has Chevy ever done that with a V6? NOPE. Why? Because
their engines SUCK @$$ compared to Honda's engines.
Do yourself a favor and get lost while your Camaro still actually runs...
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> What is the deal with you Honda owners trying to take on and burn a
> Camaro? Do you think you will actually burn one with your wimpy
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> everyone a good laugh whenever they see your joke of a car on the
> street.
> LONG LIVE THE CAMARO
You might as well say, "LONG LIVE THE TERMINALLY ILL" Both statements are
complete oxymorons.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 22 Oct 2004 04:44 GMT
> Hate to bust your bubble, ph3w1, but I know a guy who juiced up his "wimpy"
> 4-cylinder Honda Civic to where it was putting out 300hp AT THE WHEELS!
> Last time I checked, a 1998 Camaro Z28 only had about 285-300hp, AT THE
> ENGINE. Then, you factor in the HUGE difference of the power-to-weight
> ratio, and I'm sure that 300hp Civic could dust any Camaro, anytime, any
> place.
Provided one can keep it on the road.
I'm betting against that, frankly.
K-town - 23 Oct 2004 03:57 GMT
>> Hate to bust your bubble, ph3w1, but I know a guy who juiced up his
>> "wimpy"
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>
> I'm betting against that, frankly.
Well, he did have a problem with axles literally exploding. The clutch and
tranny were heavy-duty enough to take it, but he couldn't find any axles
that could take the punishment. ;-)
Jonathan