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Car Forum / Honda Cars / January 2005

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TRACTION CONTROL LIGHT

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michael - 25 Jan 2005 23:50 GMT
Hello all==I have a 04 Accord ex, upon driving in the snow I noticed the
traction control light  will blink, it stops when on dry pavement. Does the
blinking light mean the traction control is working or a problem ?
anybody know, please advise
TeGGer? - 26 Jan 2005 00:09 GMT
> Hello all==I have a 04 Accord ex, upon driving in the snow I noticed
> the traction control light  will blink, it stops when on dry pavement.
> Does the blinking light mean the traction control is working or a
> problem ? anybody know, please advise

Um, hate to ask, but what does your Owner's Manual say....?

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Bob V - 26 Jan 2005 01:17 GMT
: > Hello all==I have a 04 Accord ex, upon driving in the snow I noticed
: > the traction control light  will blink, it stops when on dry pavement.
: > Does the blinking light mean the traction control is working or a
: > problem ? anybody know, please advise
:
: Um, hate to ask, but what does your Owner's Manual say....?

LOL...what, take 10 minutes to look it up in the manual rather than post a
message here and wait 2 to 3 hours to get the answer?  :-)
James Cameron - 26 Jan 2005 23:23 GMT
Hey, come on you guys, be nice.  We don't even know if he has the manual or
not.  Not that it would make a difference anyway!

> : Um, hate to ask, but what does your Owner's Manual say....?
>
> LOL...what, take 10 minutes to look it up in the manual rather than post a
> message here and wait 2 to 3 hours to get the answer?  :-)
TeGGer? - 27 Jan 2005 00:48 GMT
>> : Um, hate to ask, but what does your Owner's Manual say....?
>>
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> Hey, come on you guys, be nice.  We don't even know if he has the
> manual or not.  Not that it would make a difference anyway!

I was being nice. Notice I didn't call him an inbred, pointy-headed 'tard.
I could have, but I didn't. And he could have posted back saying (nicely as
well), "I'm sorry but I don't have the manual so I can't check", but he
didn't.

The car's a 2004. I was assuming he's the original owner. And it would make
a big difference because that's exactly the sort of thing they write
owner's manuals for.

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E. Meyer - 28 Jan 2005 15:41 GMT
>>> : Um, hate to ask, but what does your Owner's Manual say....?
>>>
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> a big difference because that's exactly the sort of thing they write
> owner's manuals for.

This is not a comment directed at Tegger, but rather at the culture of this
group.

I have Nissans and Hondas in the family, so I lurk in both groups.  For some
time now, there has been some sort of weird culture in the Honda groups that
seems to require every question, no matter how obvious or obscure must be
answered with at least one tirade about reading the manual (except of course
if its a question about when to change the timing belt or the oil - all the
RTFM people have opinions about those things that are at odds with the
manual).  I don't see this in the Nissan groups.  They usually get answers
to their questions from actual Nissan mechanics and the really stupid
questions are usually ignored rather than attacked.

I really do not understand the causes for the arrogance that lives here, but
I have no doubt about why OPs disappear.
TeGGer? - 28 Jan 2005 16:36 GMT
> I have Nissans and Hondas in the family, so I lurk in both groups.
> For some time now, there has been some sort of weird culture in the
> Honda groups that seems to require every question, no matter how
> obvious or obscure must be answered with at least one tirade about
> reading the manual

Well, you could also say other groups have their own problems:

1) rec.autos.tech has the supremely competent but breathtakingly arrogant
Daniel Stern.

2) alt.autos.toyota has turned into a political sinkhole.

3) The Nissan group you mention was not always so good as you say. A couple
of years ago I lurked/posted for a while, since my neighbor had a Pulsar NX
with serious problems, and I was trying to get help for him there. There
appeared to be zero members who had any sort of experience, so I gave up.

Had the OP's car in this thread been even one year older, I would not have
suggested the manual, since by that time the probability of it being a
sell-on would have increased greatly.

I wish we had actual working professional techs posting here. Are there
any?

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Brian Smith - 27 Jan 2005 00:06 GMT
> Hello all==I have a 04 Accord ex, upon driving in the snow I noticed the
> traction control light  will blink, it stops when on dry pavement. Does
> the
> blinking light mean the traction control is working or a problem ?
> anybody know, please advise

When the TCS light flashes, it indicates that the TCS is working.

Brian
James Cameron - 27 Jan 2005 04:35 GMT
Brian, Brian, Brian. . .  You're not helping things at all.  How are we
supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the answers
to begin with?  You'd be surprised what you could learn for yourself if you
actually took a little time to READ!!!

> When the TCS light flashes, it indicates that the TCS is working.
>
> Brian
Michael Pardee - 27 Jan 2005 12:39 GMT
I'm assuming you read the manual to determine the info is actually in there.
For something like the TCM light flashing, it would seem to be a sure thing,
but you can never be sure. Before we bought our Toyota Prius I had heard
chains could not be used because of the front wheel well clearance, so I
looked in the manual. The FM doesn't say at all, although in another section
altogether there is a clause about "when chains are used."

And as pointed out, although it is a fair bet the 2004 will have a manual
still with the car, for older cars it isn't. For the hordes of us who buy
used cars (especially cheap ones), manuals are a rarity. Out of the 12 cars
I've owned in 35 years, only 4 of them had manuals - and three of those are
cars I bought new.

Brian's direct answer is the surest way to getting the matter resolved.

Mike

> Brian, Brian, Brian. . .  You're not helping things at all.  How are we
> supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the answers
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>>
>> Brian
Brian Smith - 27 Jan 2005 13:11 GMT
> Brian, Brian, Brian. . .  You're not helping things at all.  How are we
> supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the answers
> to begin with?  You'd be surprised what you could learn for yourself if
> you actually took a little time to READ!!!

I am well aware of what others have already said here (I have said the very
same thing in the past to others). But, now that the point has been made,
the answer to his question might as well be given. Next time (giving the OP
the benefit of the doubt <g>), he would look in the Owners Manual before
posting his question here.

Brian
TeGGer? - 27 Jan 2005 13:27 GMT
>> Brian, Brian, Brian. . .  You're not helping things at all.  How are
>> we supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the
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> time (giving the OP the benefit of the doubt <g>), he would look in
> the Owners Manual before posting his question here.

I *would* have given the answer, had I known it.

The OP has disappeared, you'll notice.

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Brian Smith - 27 Jan 2005 13:46 GMT
> I *would* have given the answer, had I known it.

Now you do know the answer <g>.

> The OP has disappeared, you'll notice.

Possibly he's just sitting back waiting for the answer. I find that a great
many times in a lot of cases, people will ask a question of total strangers
and never acknowledge the knowledge they gain. It says a great deal about
the way society is reducing itself to low levels.

Brian
Andrew - 27 Jan 2005 15:54 GMT
> Possibly he's just sitting back waiting for the answer. I find that a great
> many times in a lot of cases, people will ask a question of total strangers
> and never acknowledge the knowledge they gain. It says a great deal about
> the way society is reducing itself to low levels.

<leans forward from the shadows>

I lurk here on and off and have lurned (misspelling intentional :) )
quite a bit. I knew I was going to be in the market for an LX (not the
EX, cause then why not an Accord, and then why not, and so on). Haven't
bought it yet, but that's just for background.

But I participate actively in other forums.

I love a finished thread. It is there for everyone to find.

There are times, when I look at a common technical question (and it
seems to hit most constant participants at the same time it seems to me,
cause few will answer) and say to myself, "if I don't answer, maybe
he'll use the forum search button, maybe he'll notice it's the second
line of the FAQ, maybe he'll discover google. He can't think he is the
first person to have this problem and still expect someone to know
answer in minutes, Can he?"

Long Live RTFM!

<leans back into shadows, lights a stoagie>
Brian Smith - 27 Jan 2005 16:04 GMT
> There are times, when I look at a common technical question (and it seems
> to hit most constant participants at the same time it seems to me, cause
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>
> <leans back into shadows, lights a stoagie>

LOL! I have always believed in reading the Owners Manual, IF there is
something about the vehicle that when I pull a blank.

Brian
 
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