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Car Forum / Honda Cars / April 2005cant shift out of park
Hey guys, quick question for you. 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... AER Do the brake lights work? > Hey guys, quick question for you. > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... > AER Yes >Do the brake lights work? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... >> AER I'm having the same problem with my 1990 Honda Accord that I just bought....And my brake lights don't work..... Is is the Solenoid???? > Do the brake lights work? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... > > AER So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr out of shift...... AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related??? HELP! > So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr > out of shift...... > > AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related??? I bet it is the switch going to your brake pedal - it controls the brake lights and a solenoid (= a mechanical electrically control switch) to your shifter. It makes sure that you have to put your foot on the brake before you shift, as a precaution. A wire might have gotten knocked loose or the switch may actually be bad - you might be able to see what is wrong by looking up from where the pedals are. Remco "whybcuzremove" wrote: > > So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get > the casr [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Remco so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done- they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring problem???? > so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done- > they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring > problem???? They may be able to find it, although usually they only do brakes. They may be able to fix it, but you'll be paying for their ignorance of electrical things and most likely overcharge you. It is not a reflection of their competance of doing brakes - The problem is really an electrical one (it could be the switch, it could be a wire, it could even be just a fuse). Do you know anyone that is handy with electrical things and knows how to troubleshoot problems? A person like that would be able to find it pretty quickly. Remco my experience with these cars is the computer burns a circuit and the shift lock release quits working. its easy to find out and takes 10 minutes to find out ...1 10 mm socket and a philips head screwdriver required. under passenger floorboard <carpet> you will find 2 computers computer on right side is trans control computer. remove 4 10 mm nuts from false floorboard unplug computer turn plate over remove 3 10 mm bolts attaching computer to false floorboard remove 4 philips screws and open up box . look in bottom corner for burnt electronic components....ASE certified transmission tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for info djmcreynolds1@bellsouth.net > > Do the brake lights work? > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/Honda-shift-park-ftopict106130.html > Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=531058 > my experience with these cars is the computer burns a circuit and the shift > lock release quits working. its easy to find out and takes 10 minutes to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > false floorboard remove 4 philips screws and open up box . look in bottom > corner for burnt electronic components.... Interesting experience, seeing as neither the ECU not the TCU has any control over the shift lock solenoid. No brake lights and a shift lock solenoid that won't disengage is pretty easy to diagnose. > ASE certified transmission > tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for info You do this for a living? I see your posts in a large number of automotive news groups,. >> >> ASE certified transmission [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You do this for a living? I see your posts in a large number of > automotive news groups,. Sounds like a conflict of interest.  SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net I had the same problem a week ago and worked through it successfully. See my question on April 16. Anyhow, I checked the brake switch, the bulbs in the brake lights and finally checked the fuses for the horn and the stop under the hood. Lo and behold, there was no fuse in there at all.. the 20 amp fuse was missing from this car that, to me, was just three days old. Anyway, I found a spare 20 amp fuse, put it in and voila, the horn worked, the brake lights worked and I was able to shift simply out of park with no trouble. Case closed, an epiphany experience for the cost and time of a spare fuse that I already had in my possession... Check those fuses, even replace it if you have any doubts....At least before you take it to a mechanice. A sidenote here... a local mechanic mentioned that he has only replace two solenoids on Honda in recent years, and both were vehicles with more than 100,000 miles.... Good luck with your problems and I hope they have happy endings like mine.. > Hey guys, quick question for you. > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... > AER Have you or anyone else work on the transmission in the past couple of months? If it was a mechanic, take it back and tell him the problem. It's possible that the problem is related to the transaxle control solenoid. You might have to replace it. If you have never before done any work on transmissions, I advise you to take it to your favorite mechanic. SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. No tranny work in a year. and that was just a drain and flush. AER >> Hey guys, quick question for you. >> 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >solenoid. You might have to replace it. If you have never before done any >work on transmissions, I advise you to take it to your favorite mechanic. On an integra you can override the lock on the shifter by putting a key in the little slot in front of the shifter -- it might be similar on your civic. A solenoid normally controls this lock and the key just manually pushes the lever. That solenoid might be broken or not driven. It can also be in need of adjustment. Remco So, instead of replacing the solenoid, I could jsut replace it with really no ill effects right? AER >On an integra you can override the lock on the shifter by putting a key >in the little slot in front of the shifter -- it might be similar on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Remco I mean, I could just REMOVE it with no ill effects AER >So, instead of replacing the solenoid, I could jsut replace it with >really no ill effects right? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >>Remco |
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