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Car Forum / Honda Cars / June 2005Accord Vs Civic
If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which is cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it worth it? Prolly a civic, they are cheaper to buy, but i would much rather get an accord. They are faster and have more room plus look better. > If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which is > cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it worth it? > If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which > is > cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it worth it? A stripper DX Civic will be the cheapest to buy/own/maintain. >>If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which >>is >>cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it worth it? > > A stripper DX Civic will be the cheapest to buy/own/maintain. But insurance rates will be higher on the Civic. That may turn the balance the other way, even with the ~$2000 difference at invoice cost. -Sonarrat. >>> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, >>> which is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cost. > -Sonarrat. I just re-upped my policy for my three Hondas (2004 EXL 4 Door Accord, 2001 EXL 2 door Accord and a 2002 EX Civic). In looking this over, the Civic is about 60-70% for the same coverage as either Accord. >>>>If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, >>>>which is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > In looking this over, the Civic is about 60-70% for the same coverage as > either Accord. It must vary by company and area, then. In my area, with AAA, the Accord DX is the cheapest car to insure, period - regardless of manufacturer. The LX and EX are higher, and the Civics are higher than either of those, then the Civic Si is the worst at about 3x as much as the Accord DX.. -Sonarrat. Regarding insurance, here in Ontario my 94 Accord EX is rated to be at increased risk for theft, apparently one of the most popular stolen vehicles in North America, and this is apparently factored in with my rate. Not sure if this applys to the newer Accords. > >>>>If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, > >>>>which is [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > -Sonarrat. > Regarding insurance, here in Ontario my 94 Accord EX is rated to be at > increased [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > this > applys to the newer Accords. The programmable keys/anti-theft/alarm may make a difference. It will at least keep honest people honest. >>>>>> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a >>>>>> Honda, which is [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> -Sonarrat. >> Regarding insurance, here in Ontario my 94 Accord EX is rated to be at >> increased [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> this >> applys to the newer Accords. >The programmable keys/anti-theft/alarm may make a difference. It will at >least keep honest people honest. Nonsense. "There's no such thing as keeping honest people honest." That's a very tired old cliche. Auto theft is a crime of opportunity, perpetrated by thieves. If the vehicle is parked outside at night or parked in an open-access lot (mall lot or park-n-ride lot, grocery store lot, your doctor's office lot, etc), it's likely to get stolen. Anti-theft devices only thwart the unskilled auto thief. A well-skilled thief knows exactly how to bypass every one of these devices in a matter of seconds and can steal -any car- he wants to steal. All he needs is the chance (opportunity). More bold/brazen car thieves who want a specific car badly enough will even hijack you while you're in the car and stopped at an intersection. When someone sticks a gun in your face, what are you going to do? Can't start it? No problem, legitimate tow truck operators aren't the only ones who have tow trucks. Devices like "Lo Jack" can very often recover your car or locate it quickly, but usually *not* before damage, often substantial, has been done. If they want the wheels or air bags, consider them gone, Lo Jack or not. Here again, wheel locks only thwart the common thief. The pro will have the tools to have them off in a matter of seconds. >>> Regarding insurance, here in Ontario my 94 Accord EX is rated to be at >>> increased [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > not. Here again, wheel locks only thwart the common thief. The pro will > have the tools to have them off in a matter of seconds. It's true nothing is 100%, but the idea is to discourage the vast numbers of 16yr olds who are looking for an easy mark. The pros seem to favor tow trucks, and for those the best defense is to turn your wheels sharply and/or back into the space and set the parking brake (if you are that concerned) to make your car less attractive. Noise-making alarms with motion, proximity and glass-breakage sensors will do a lot for reducing air bag theft. For each model there are things to prevent HID theft. It's all a matter of how much you want to do and pay for protection. The professionals don't like to take risks, and all those things are risks for the various types of thefts. Amateurs are lazy and would rather go to a car that is easier to steal. Vandals don't care either way and can do extensive damage. Just pay your money and take your choice. BTW - my son had a carbureted Subaru and he put a concealed kill switch on the electric fuel pump. If a carjacker had confronted him, he could catch the switch on the way out and the bad guy would never have known - the engine will still idle for several seconds. My son would have been away clear by the time the evildoer figured out the car didn't just happen to stall in traffic. I bet there is an equivalent for more modern cars available. Mike >>>>> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a >>>>> Honda, which is [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > -Sonarrat. I just noted that they have a "violation point" on the Civic for some reason. Last year, the Civic was about 11% higher. I suspect it is because the other two have front side curtain airbags. Now, to call the insurance company to see what gives on this violation point! I think if you look you are apt to find that all auto insurance policies are "experience-rated" to a great extent. The cost of the vehicle bears some relationship to what you pay for insurance, but it's not the only factor. The rating includes (among other things) 1) the percentage of accident claims involving *that* model 2) the average cost to repair *that* model - example, it might be a cheap car but have an expensive front bumper or radiator 3) the average cost to "replace" it (here's where the value figures into the insurance equation) 4) vehicle theft history of *that* specific model (how often is this model stolen compared to other cars) 5) Average ownership demographics (is it a young person's car?) 6) claim history demographics (do you live in a bad neighborhood?) 6) credit score of the owner (very important) 7) driving record of the principal operator (except on parent's policy) 8) claims history of the policyowner (kids accidents will hurt you here) 9) academic record (good students qualify for 10% discount) etc. >>>>>> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a >>>>>> Honda, which is [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Now, to call the insurance company to see what gives on this violation >point! > I think if you look you are apt to find that all auto insurance > policies are "experience-rated" to a great extent. The cost of the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > discount) > etc. Considering nothing has changed from last year to this year along these lines, and the actual rates on the other two cars dropped slightly and the Civic went up 50%, I believe there is some erronious information that they are using. >>>>>>> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a >>>>>>> Honda, which is [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> Now, to call the insurance company to see what gives on this >> violation point! that sounds right > > I think if you look you are apt to find that all auto insurance > > policies are "experience-rated" to a great extent. The cost of the [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >> Now, to call the insurance company to see what gives on this > >> violation point! > If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which is > cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it worth it? The Civic is smaller in size than the Accord and has LESS power than the Accord. I would still prefer the Accord because it has more power and is larger. However, If I did not have a well paying full time job, I would settle for a Civic until I could afford to trade it in on an Accord.  SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. yeah sea world doesnt pay that well > > If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which is > > cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it worth it? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > yeah sea world doesnt pay that well But it's a whale of a job. >> yeah sea world doesnt pay that well > > But it's a whale of a job. It gives you porpoise in life! haha > >> yeah sea world doesnt pay that well > > > > But it's a whale of a job. > > It gives you porpoise in life! || If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, || which is cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | the Accord. I would still prefer the Accord because it has more | power and is larger. My trusty old Civic '88 accomodates me just fine (I'm 6'1), and provides enough power to get around, onto freeways and off. It's been pretty much trouble-free and just recently passed (strict California "Enhanced Area") smog without any effort. It's taken me places, long drives, short drives, has carried two bikes (OK, front wheels taken off) in its trunk, and fits four (not super-sized) people without being totally cramped. Ask yourself how much power and space you really *need* vs. what you want. We often make the mistake of confusing the two of them. | However, If I did not have a well paying full | time job, I would settle for a Civic until I could | afford to trade it in on an Accord. I could afford an Accord, but why would I want to buy one? Jarrett - if you're on a tight budget, take all the additional costs into account, such as - insurance - registration - gas (if you drive a lot, especially nowadays) beside the pure cost of the car plus maintenance. For pure economical reasons, an older (but well-maintained) Civic would be really hard to beat. > || If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, > || which is cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > For pure economical reasons, an older (but well-maintained) Civic would be > really hard to beat. impossible to beat imo! i'm 6'5 and have an 89 hatch for exactly the same reasons as you, bikes & all! plus, if you live/work in a big city, having something old & ugly is a huge positive against theft & vandalism. it's also interesting in the dating dept. if a potential date looks at my car & starts getting an attitude, i already know she's not my type. || For pure economical reasons, an older (but well-maintained) Civic || would be really hard to beat. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | city, having something old & ugly is a huge positive against theft & | vandalism. Good point, too. Even thought I don't necessarily think it's ugly - but that might be an acquired taste ;) | it's also interesting in the dating dept. if a potential | date looks at my car & starts getting an attitude, i already know | she's not my type. Excellent point, too! :) > || For pure economical reasons, an older (but well-maintained) Civic > || would be really hard to beat. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Good point, too. Even thought I don't necessarily think it's ugly - but that > might be an acquired taste ;) /mine/ is ugly. peeling paint, scratches, dents. doesn't look much, but she's like new under the hood - just the way i like it! nice & stealthy... > | it's also interesting in the dating dept. if a potential > | date looks at my car & starts getting an attitude, i already know > | she's not my type. > > Excellent point, too! :) yeah gold diggers arent cool > || For pure economical reasons, an older (but well-maintained) Civic > || would be really hard to beat. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Excellent point, too! :) > || If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, > || which is cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > For pure economical reasons, an older (but well-maintained) Civic would be > really hard to beat. Hello, It appears that lots and lots of people must agree with you. I see lots more Civics than Accords in the town where I live. It's my guess that if gas prices remain high--that small cars (including Civics) will be more common that SUVs in the coming years. I have several friends that live over 40 miles from where they work--it's easy to understand why my friends and other people that have to drive over 40 miles per day would be more likely to buy a Civic than an Accord. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. I drive 29 miles daily each way to and from work, plus a 300-mile trek to the home office 2-4 times monthly, and my 2003 Civic EX is a dream for this duty. Depending on a/c usage (I live in Central FL), I get 35-38 mpg in mixed driving, and at 36,000 miles have had no unscheduled maintenance after the first month (faulty seat rail on the dirvers' side). Despite the extra luxury, I can't believe an Accord would be better. Of course, I still pine away for the 1990 Civic LX I traded in for the new one -- bought it new and drove it 13 years and 185,000 miles with the original clutch still working beautifully. >> || If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, >> || which is cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > likely to buy a Civic than an Accord. > Jason good point ill probably do like 20-30 miles a day > I drive 29 miles daily each way to and from work, plus a 300-mile trek to > the home office 2-4 times monthly, and my 2003 Civic EX is a dream for this [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > I drive 29 miles daily each way to and from work, plus a 300-mile > trek to the home office 2-4 times monthly, and my 2003 Civic EX is a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the new one -- bought it new and drove it 13 years and 185,000 miles > with the original clutch still working beautifully. Depending on need, the Accords can fit 4-5 adults comfortably, which is what I needed..... >>>>> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a >>>>> Honda, which is cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. >> We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >>>> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, >>>> which is cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > miles per day would be more likely to buy a Civic than an Accord. > Jason I have the Accord, my daughter has a Civic. Both are good cars and you can't go wrong either way. Go with what you budget will allow. There is no sense spending more then one can afford, as it won't do you any good if you can't afford to go anywhere with it. > If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which is > cheaper to maintain? If one is more than the other is it worth it? The Civic will be no cheaper to "maintain" but will do a little better on F.E. than the Accord. At the sacrifice of ride quality, noise and features. The Civic LX trim level suits my family drivers just fine. Currently enjoying 25 MPG (all in town, LA traffic) with a 2005 Civic Coupe LX. -- Tp, -------- __o ----- -\<. -------- __o --- ( )/ ( ) ---- -\<. -------------------- ( )/ ( ) ----------------------------------------- No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron... The Accords just don't get the MPG of the Civic's and the 2001 and above Civic's are pretty roomy. I just got 41.6 mpg out of my 2002 Civic lx 5sp and that was 70 % Highway -30% city driving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> If you do not care about size or anything when it comes to a Honda, which >> is [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron... so a civic 2001 is has more room? wut year and up is better for a accord or civic, atleast > The Accords just don't get the MPG of the Civic's and the 2001 and above > Civic's are pretty roomy. 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