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1999 CRV: Keeping clock bright when lites are on?

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Thomas G. Marshall - 17 Jul 2005 16:41 GMT
I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was an
assumption that lights only go on at night.

Is there a configuration somewhere within the CRV that allows for "allways
bright" on the clock?

If not, is there a wire that I can cut or short to make it always bright?
I'm assuming that at the very least there would be something on the clock
itself.  Maybe 3 wires?----[ground, low, high] or maybe [ground, Positive,
lites-on] ?

Thanks!

PS.  Before I thought to ask the question if there was another way, I had
asked here how to remove the clock.  That damn thing is impossible to
remove!  Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that too, I'd
appreciate it.

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known as a "backyard breeder" and are part of the problem.  Most of the
congenital problems of present day dogs are traceable directly to backyard
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you're somehow the exception and can breed a dog without taking the care
described.

motsco_ _ - 17 Jul 2005 17:25 GMT
> I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
> DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was an
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> remove!  Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that too, I'd
> appreciate it.

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You could add true DRL to your '99 and solve the problem, and save fuel
while you're at it. Using the headlights as DRL turns on about 8 other
unneeded bulbs, and the headlights run at full power. Take a look at:

http://www.hamsar.com/drlkits.htm

For some reason I think model 45060 is the right one to simulate the
Canadian version of Honda DRL on a CR-V.

I can find the other answer in my manual . . . Just takes time. The
clock pops out with a butterknife. Put tape on the lower edge of the
dash first.

'Curly'
Thomas G. Marshall - 17 Jul 2005 22:49 GMT
motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ coughed up:
>> I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come
>> with DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> clock pops out with a butterknife. Put tape on the lower edge of the
> dash first.

Tried that----the tolerance of that gap is so incredibly small that a
butterknife all by itself bends the clock into scary proportions!.  Chipped
the thing too attempting this.  I'm not very good at yanking out dash
components.

Also----the clips that they use on the dashboard that "snaps into" special
rectangular holes in other parts of the dash, can pop off and fly deep into
the cavity (somewhere) to never be seen again.  They just are not clamped
onto the dash part well enough.  Arg.

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Having a dog that is a purebred does not qualify it for breeding.  Dogs
need to have several generations of clearances for various illnesses
before being bred.  If you are breeding dogs without taking care as to
the genetic quality of the dog (again, being purebred is *not* enough),
you are what is known as a "backyard breeder" and are part of the
problem.  Most of the congenital problems of present day dogs are
traceable directly to backyard breeding.  Spay or neuter your pet
responsibly, and don't just think that you're somehow the exception and
can breed a dog without taking the care described.

motsco_ _ - 18 Jul 2005 18:56 GMT
> Tried that----the tolerance of that gap is so incredibly small that a
> butterknife all by itself bends the clock into scary proportions!.  Chipped
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the cavity (somewhere) to never be seen again.  They just are not clamped
> onto the dash part well enough.  Arg.

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Use a narrow putty knife then, they are way thinner than the common
butter knife. I can't find the instructions over at hondasuv.com, but I
know they are there. Sign in and use the SEARCH function. Look for clock.

'Curly'
Thomas G. Marshall - 19 Jul 2005 00:32 GMT
motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ coughed up:
>> Tried that----the tolerance of that gap is so incredibly small that a
>> butterknife all by itself bends the clock into scary proportions!.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Use a narrow putty knife then, they are way thinner than the common
> butter knife.

Tried that too long ago.  It bent the thin putty knife.  After years of
working with this or that I'm coming to a carefully drawn conclusion that
I'm cursed when it comes to car maintenance.

> I can't find the instructions over at hondasuv.com, but
> I know they are there. Sign in and use the SEARCH function. Look for
> clock.
> 'Curly'

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Thomas G. Marshall - 17 Jul 2005 23:36 GMT
I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was
an assumption that lights only go on at night.

Is there a configuration somewhere within the CRV that allows for
"allways bright" on the clock?

If not, is there a wire that I can cut or short to make it always
bright? I'm assuming that at the very least there would be something on
the clock itself.  Maybe 3 wires?----[ground, low, high] or maybe
[ground, Positive, lites-on] ?

Thanks!

PS.  Before I thought to ask the question if there was another way, I
had asked here how to remove the clock.  That damn thing is impossible
to remove!  Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that
too, I'd appreciate it.

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Having a dog that is a purebred does not qualify it for breeding.  Dogs
need to have several generations of clearances for various illnesses
before being bred.  If you are breeding dogs without taking care as to
the genetic quality of the dog (again, being purebred is not enough),
you are what is known as a "backyard breeder" and are part of the
problem.  Most of the congenital problems of present day dogs are
traceable directly to backyard breeding.  Spay or neuter your pet
responsibly, and don't just think that you're somehow the exception and
can breed a dog without taking the care described.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 18 Jul 2005 02:23 GMT
In article <b4BCe.2966$Zx3.233@trndny05>,
"Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

> I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
> DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> If not, is there a wire that I can cut or short to make it always
> bright?

You talk about the clock, but you forget that the clock is part of the
instrument lighting overall.

On some cars, the dashboard light dimmer switch has a position whereby
it turns all the dash lights on full strength, plenty bright for anytime.
Thomas G. Marshall - 18 Jul 2005 04:22 GMT
Elmo P. Shagnasty coughed up:
> In article <b4BCe.2966$Zx3.233@trndny05>,
> "Thomas G. Marshall"
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> You talk about the clock, but you forget that the clock is part of the
> instrument lighting overall.

No I didn't.  The clock is /not/ part of the instrument lighting.  It is
under separate control, high and low based only on whether or not the lights
are on, and is not affected by the dashboard light dimmer.

> On some cars, the dashboard light dimmer switch has a position whereby
> it turns all the dash lights on full strength, plenty bright for
> anytime.

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It's time for everyone to just step back, take a deep breath, relax,
and stop throwing hissy fits over crossposting.

Elmo P. Shagnasty - 18 Jul 2005 04:31 GMT
In article <EfFCe.4425$ij3.3951@trndny06>,
"Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

> The clock is /not/ part of the instrument lighting.  It is
> under separate control, high and low based only on whether or not the lights
> are on, and is not affected by the dashboard light dimmer.

Man, Honda is making things CHEAP.  I guess that's their philosophy on
the Civic-based line.

More and more, it's obvious that the beancounters are in charge at
Honda, and that engineers are way down the ladder.

Damn shame.
Thomas G. Marshall - 18 Jul 2005 23:38 GMT
Elmo P. Shagnasty coughed up:
> In article <EfFCe.4425$ij3.3951@trndny06>,
> "Thomas G. Marshall"
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Damn shame.

I'm not sure that it /should/ be part of the dash dimmer.  It has differing
requirements.  It needs to be on both when the headlights are on and off,
and they need to be brightest during the day, and dimmed at night.  At least
that would be the theory.

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motsco_ _ - 19 Jul 2005 06:14 GMT
> I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
> DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was
> an assumption that lights only go on at night.
>
> Is there a configuration somewhere within the CRV that allows for
> "allways bright" on the clock?
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Here's the 'long' answer:

Four wires run the clock. Yellow = ACC power, White / blue tracer = On
all the time, Black is chassis ground, and Red / Black tracer is
ILLUMINATION input.

When the ILLUMINATION input is zero, the backlight runs at 100%. Apply
any voltage from the dash lights, and it drops to 50% , then down to
maybe 5% depending on the position of the brightness control. To solve
your problem, install a switch in the Red/Black line to prevent the
clock knowing the dash lights have come on. You could mount the switch
on one of the the two blank plugs to the left of the steering wheel, or
even get a matching used Honda switch from a cruise control or fog lamps.

'Curly'
twfsa - 18 Jul 2005 00:15 GMT
Go to Wal Mart and buy a stick on clock.

Tom

> I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
> DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was an
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> remove!  Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that too,
> I'd appreciate it.
Thomas G. Marshall - 18 Jul 2005 04:16 GMT
twfsa coughed up:
> Go to Wal Mart and buy a stick on clock.

LOL

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It's time for everyone to just step back, take a deep breath, relax,
and stop throwing hissy fits over crossposting.

motsco_ _ - 18 Jul 2005 05:32 GMT
> Thanks!
>
> PS.  Before I thought to ask the question if there was another way, I had
> asked here how to remove the clock.  That damn thing is impossible to
> remove!  Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that too, I'd
> appreciate it.

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Here's a better link to an article about the '99 clock:

http://www.hondasuv.com/crv/viewtopic.php?t=66

'curly'
Thomas G. Marshall - 18 Jul 2005 23:46 GMT
motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ coughed up:
>> Thanks!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> 'curly'

CR-V Articles Forum Index
Information
The topic or post you requested does not exist

I am a member too.

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Thomas G. Marshall - 19 Jul 2005 00:38 GMT
motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ coughed up:
>> Thanks!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> 'curly'

nevermind.  found it.

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http://www.allexperts.com is a nifty way to get an answer to just about
/anything/.

Thomas G. Marshall - 19 Jul 2005 01:13 GMT
motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ coughed up:
>> Thanks!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> 'curly'

Ok, here's the thing.  When I've asked before how to remove the clock, the
answer was always the same: insert a knife under the clock.

The point is, you don't do that (apparently according to that link you just
gave).  You put the knife underneath the entire center vent assembly (which
hold vents+clock+emergency switch).

I've tried that too now, and started to bend the butter knife.  Gonna have
to try something else.

Where do those four pairs of wires hook into the main system.  I'm not lucky
enough to have them near the fuse block am I?

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