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Trouble Starting 92 Honda Accord when weather is hot

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thecricket - 10 Aug 2005 19:05 GMT
Hello,
I'm hoping someone can help shed some light on an issue for me.
Whenever the weather is hot enough and I'm unable to find a spot parked
in the shade I'm unable to start my car if the suns been shining on it
all day.  I'll turn the key and it'll keep turning and turning but
it'll never catch and start (occasionally I'll get lucky and it'll
start).  Otherwise I'm left to sit and wait until the day cools off.
Most times I'll have someone come pick me up and then after the sun
sets and things cool off I'll go back to my car and it will start right
up.  Someone suggested loosening my gas cap incase there was some kind
of pressure build up.  I've done that and have had no luck.  Any ideas
of where to go next in tracking this down?

Thank you for any help you might be able to provide!

-Jeff
André Boisvert - 10 Aug 2005 21:15 GMT
Hi Jeff,

I posted a similar problem this morning and Jim Yanik was kind enough to
respond.  It looks like a main relay problem.  Did a goggle search and got
this; http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/aa010301a.htm
Just returning the favour.  Good luck.

André

> Hello,
> I'm hoping someone can help shed some light on an issue for me.
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>
> -Jeff
thecricket - 19 Aug 2005 21:33 GMT
I was able to replace the part myself yesterday.  Boy was the bugger
way up in there.  What a pain to get to.  I appreciate everyones input.
Now I just have to wait till the weather gets hot again.  It's
michigan.....  I might have to wait until next summer :-P

Thanks again!
Jim Yanik - 20 Aug 2005 02:27 GMT
> I was able to replace the part myself yesterday.  Boy was the bugger
> way up in there.  What a pain to get to.  I appreciate everyones input.
>  Now I just have to wait till the weather gets hot again.  It's
> michigan.....  I might have to wait until next summer :-P
>
> Thanks again!

did ya take the old relay apart to see how easy it is to resolder?
It's very easy,to take the cover off and to resolder.

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thecricket - 23 Aug 2005 21:53 GMT
Jim,

I did take it apart but I haven't soldered a thing in my life.  Any
advice?  With the new replacement part in I hadn't even thought about
it.

Thank you, Jeff
Jim Yanik - 24 Aug 2005 16:19 GMT
> Jim,
>
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>
> Thank you, Jeff

Well,then you don't have the tools needed to do the job,so it would not
make sense to attempt resoldering.

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Elle - 24 Aug 2005 18:04 GMT
> > Jim,
> >
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> Well,then you don't have the tools needed to do the job,so it would not
> make sense to attempt resoldering.

Sure it would. What's he going to pay for a soldering iron? More than $20?
Solder removal material? $10 Solder? $5 Anything else?

Then the value of the experience may far outweigh the equipment and material
costs.

Folks need to be encouraged to be less dependent upon paying others for
skills which they can easily master and enjoy doing so.
Jim Yanik - 25 Aug 2005 01:01 GMT
>> > Jim,
>> >
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> Sure it would. What's he going to pay for a soldering iron? More than
> $20? Solder removal material? $10 Solder? $5 Anything else?

Not having any experience soldering,he might pick acid-core solder for
plumbing instead of rosin-core for electrical work.He might get an iron of
insufficient wattage.He might make solder bridges.

> Then the value of the experience may far outweigh the equipment and
> material costs.

Only if he ever decides to solder anything else.If not,he's wasted money
buying tools he probably would never use again.

> Folks need to be encouraged to be less dependent upon paying others
> for skills which they can easily master and enjoy doing so.

He also might not want to trouble with it.
Besides,he -already bought- a new relay.It probably will not fail before
the car is replaced.

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kathleen williamson - 10 Aug 2005 23:55 GMT
Oh my god....I was just about to post the same problem.  Maybe I will
too, just because it can't hurt to get as much info as we can.

Kathy

> Hello,
> I'm hoping someone can help shed some light on an issue for me.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> -Jeff
Steve Bigelow - 11 Aug 2005 00:27 GMT
Main relay.
Google the group on it.

> Oh my god....I was just about to post the same problem.  Maybe I will too,
> just because it can't hurt to get as much info as we can.
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>>
>> -Jeff
kathleen williamson - 11 Aug 2005 00:53 GMT
Thank you so much for all your help.  I'll be printing out these
messages and the site Andre/Jeff spoke about.  Maybe my mechanic will
give me a medal and a break on this new bill.

> Hello,
> I'm hoping someone can help shed some light on an issue for me.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> -Jeff
Jim Yanik - 11 Aug 2005 02:14 GMT
> Thank you so much for all your help.  I'll be printing out these
> messages and the site Andre/Jeff spoke about.  Maybe my mechanic will
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>> -Jeff

tegger.com and  mark19 have excellent sites about reworking the main relay.
(Google "mark19" and "main relay",he's got good pictures.)

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